Message 1 of 43 (652124) 02-12-2012 3:31 PM

"Hi Gale,
You've posted this about a bajillion times to different websites over the past couple of weeks (I haven't checked them all, but your name seems to be coming up a lot).
EvC won't be visibly hosting it. Fear not, many of the numerous blogs, news commentary sections and forums that you have posted this to will keep it up for you and I'm only hiding it - it will be visible to the genuinely curious.
We'd be happy if you decide to stick around and contribute to the ongoing discussion here, but your scattergun approach to posting this piece doesn't give me much hope for that prospect.

my response:

The point of forum is to express ideas, and i thought this forum was to express scientific ideas with regardless to theology... thus, my thread "Is the human fetus a parasite according to symbiosis ?" was about info proving that the bible supported abortion, the law supports abortion, and the human fetus is a parasite according SYMBIOSIS-- being as crude, crass and unapologetic as it IS was suppose to start a DEBATE of why society romanticize pregnancy and the LIES of the religious to keep this ideology alive with all the anti-choice legislation lately.

but it needs time to get there.

BY LOOKING AT THE ATHEISTS VIDEOS FROM THUNDERF00T AND ARONNRA THAT I LISTED WAS SUPPOSE TO FOSTER MORE DEBATES ABOUT THE JUDEO-CHRISITAN GOD IS REAL OR NOT.

but instead of, waiting to I got back to the forum to explain why i created this thread in first place... you pulled a "a typical fundamentalist christian card" closed the thread as a form of censorship, just like the nazis.

if you went to my other threads of different " more popular" forums, like http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?p=13626811
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/

you would see me debating with people, but i can't spend all day on forums... i have life and a job!

not ONE person posted science, law nor the bible to debunk the info inside the " Is the human fetus a parasite according to symbiosis?" wrong...NOT ONE!

so does this deserved censorship because some "butthurt" can't prove it wrong?

THE BIBLE:
the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god's name, in his holly temple!
the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what "to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell" meant: numbers 5:21 "or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion.

'Ephraim, as I saw Tyre, is planted in a pleasant place; but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer." Give them, O LORD -- what wilt Thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts...Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit; yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.'

HOSEA 9-16

the judeo-christian god is a myth and historical evidence proves it.
3.3.3 ATHEISM: A HISTORY OF GOD (Part 1) Evid3nc3
2nd Foundational Falsehood of Creationism-AronRa
Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 36)- Thunderf00t
Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29)
Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 28)

http://www.evilbible.com/god
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/abortion.html

THIS IS THE LAW:
ABORTION IS A CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT SUPPORTED BY THE RIGHTS TO PRIVACY, THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT, AND THE 13TH AMENDMENT.

NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human's body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that's why you are not forced to donate your kidney---the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/...to_the_United_States_Constitution

this makes viability unconstitutional because pregnancy is not a crime.

consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent.

THIS IS SCIENCE:
FETUS IS NOT A BABY (GOOGLE THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because the classification of the biological relationship that is based on the behavior one organism (fetus) and how it relates to the woman's body:

as a zygote, it invaded the woman's uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B and HCG--- so her body doesn't kill it, steals her nutrients to survive, and causes her harm or potential death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophoblast

"The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses several mechanisms:
It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy

" Due to its highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin

"It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species."
http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's Science of Everyday Things.

just like a parasitic twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin

"an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parasite

pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm

THE FETUS DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FEEL PAIN --WHEN MOST ABORTIONS OCCUR.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/...-pain-uk-report-says-no.html

what do you guys think?

Message 3 of 43 (652126) 02-12-2012 3:36 PM

Reply to: Message 2 by subbie 02-12-2012 3:33 PM

did dennis had a point that no one could prove wrong but her was censored for it, too?

Message 5 of 43 (652129) 02-12-2012 3:50 PM

Reply to: Message 4 by subbie 02-12-2012 3:38 PM

do you want to try debunk it, or you just like showing how you cute can be?

Message 10 of 43 (652136) 02-12-2012 4:14 PM

Reply to: Message 7 by subbie 02-12-2012 4:06 PM

i doubt that "your links, grammatical errors, nonstandard capitalization, blocks of CAPSLOCKed text and frequently unparsable sentence structure."..

could actually stop you from reading the post and proving the sources that i used wrong.... i smell a cop-out!

i suggest you look at pictures of kittens to make yourself feel better.

Message 15 of 43 (652145) 02-12-2012 4:39 PM

Reply to: Message 12 by hooah212002 02-12-2012 4:28 PM

thanks.

Message 17 of 43 (652148) 02-12-2012 4:42 PM

Reply to: Message 14 by subbie 02-12-2012 4:34 PM

the people on the xbox/gamestop forums at least tired not to give me cop-outs and other fallacies, maybe you should try.

thanks

Message 19 of 43 (652151) 02-12-2012 4:46 PM

Reply to: Message 16 by jar 02-12-2012 4:42 PM

yes, it was -- closed before i could respond because this thread was on other "more popular" forums, is censorship!

"topic is redundant, posting basically the same shit all over again is, ... well, not all that bright."

that's called an opinion, just like your post is cop-out, and please at anytime links wrong, since the whole topic isn't bright.

Message 22 of 43 (652155) 02-12-2012 4:48 PM

Reply to: Message 18 by hooah212002 02-12-2012 4:45 PM

"Next time you respond to me, try to do it in proper English please. You're the only one who understands your gibberish."

thanks for the cop-out, the info in the first post has yet to be proven wrong by anyone... it's only wiki, for you it shouldn't be that hard.

Message 23 of 43 (652156) 02-12-2012 4:50 PM

Reply to: Message 20 by Omnivorous 02-12-2012 4:46 PM

thanks for the cop-out, the facts in the post has yet to be proven wrong by you.

Message 29 of 43 (652162) 02-12-2012 4:55 PM

Reply to: Message 21 by Warthog 02-12-2012 4:47 PM

i wish i quote, it doesn't give me the option.

the definition is not vague, because it applies to all organism.

"As I understand it, a parasite survives on a host of a different species."

then what's a parasitic twin? it's a organism of the same species as its host... its brother, so YOU ARE WRONG AND YOUR DEFINITION IS WRONG... I'M RIGHT.

unlike the others, thanks for trying.

Message 30 of 43 (652163) 02-12-2012 4:59 PM

Reply to: Message 28 by hooah212002 02-12-2012 4:54 PM

"Here's the thing: EvC isn't like the "Xbox/Gamestop" forums. We have rules for a reason"

lol, with your immature cop-outs and insults... which, i thanked you for.

grasping at straws isn't going to help to you.

the links that proves my point are still there in the first post... and they are not hard to read --- prove them wrong.

Message 31 of 43 (652164) 02-12-2012 5:03 PM

Reply to: Message 27 by subbie 02-12-2012 4:54 PM

"O that I could someday hope to aspire to the level of erudition at an xbox forum!"

good because you lower the bar of this forum, with your all cop-outs because you can't prove anyone of the links that i posted supporting my position wrong.

try harder.

Message 35 of 43 (652171) 02-12-2012 5:58 PM

Reply to: Message 34 by Kairyu 02-12-2012 5:33 PM

philosophically? yes, fetus is a parasite -- even through you may disagree with it.

i don't give cop-outs.

this is maybe my last post, my home computer is broken--- so don't close or ban my account Modulous (AdminModulous) or another admin.

the library is about is close.

thanks!