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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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So, Romney took Illinois, Santorum seems fair set to take Louisiana.
Why is Newt Gingrich? What's he there for? It would be easy, indeed facile, to explain his candidature with the words "ego trip", except that in fact he must be taking a repeated pummeling to his ego as he finds out that everyone hates him because ... well, because he's filth, I think that's the main reason. He might well be ahead of Santorum if he wasn't such a sack of shit. So why is he still in the race?
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subbie Member (Idle past 1277 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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One suggestion I've heard is that the Repugnantcan party is so unhappy with the prospect of Romney being the candidate that the others are staying in the race to deny him the necessary delegates to win the nomination in the hopes that a brokered convention would produce someone else. That makes as much sense to me as anything else to explain why any of them besides Romney are still in.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Here's Romney's Communications Director on CNN:
HOST: Is there a concern that Santorum and Gingrich might force the governor to tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election.
FEHRNSTROM: Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again. Hello, Mr Fehrnstrom? You don't say that in public. Yes, in private you can admit --- you can even gloat over --- the fact that your candidate is an unprincipled shill who'll say whatever will get him elected, but in public perhaps you should pretend that he's a man of character and not an empty suit. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4040 Joined: Member Rating: 8.1 |
One suggestion I've heard is that the Repugnantcan party is so unhappy with the prospect of Romney being the candidate that the others are staying in the race to deny him the necessary delegates to win the nomination in the hopes that a brokered convention would produce someone else. That makes as much sense to me as anything else to explain why any of them besides Romney are still in.
I've heard rumors surrounding a semi-conspiracy-theory tactic supposedly undertaken by Ron Paul supporters - to install as many Ron Paul supporters as delegates as possible, such that in the case of an open vote at the Convention Ron Paul might be nominated despite not winning a single state. That sounds a bit too...I don't know how else to describe it but to say "conspiracy theory" to sound likely to me, but it does sound sufficiently plausible as a general tactic. At this point the result is not clear-cut, and so there really could be an open vote, and an open vote could very well result in Gingrich or Santorum getting the nod depending on the leanings of the individual delegates themselves. Without any conspiracies, since they're both more popular with Republicans than Paul (I'm still shocked and dismayed at the number of Paul supporters among self-identified liberals and moderates, who clearly aren't paying any attention at all).The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
For one thing, having a rich sugar daddy to finance the whole ride must be a powerful enabler. If he had to raise the funds himself from his followers, he would have had to drop out long ago as those funds would have dried up as his followers saw that he has no hope of winning. I've also heard where this entire super-PAC funding issue will also lead to a drying up of grass-roots support for the candidates, something that will also affect Obama's re-election campaign. But back to the original question, as long as any candidate has a rich donor footing the bills, there's no reason to drop out.
Second, there certainly must be something to the idea that nobody wants to just hand the candidacy to Romney. And the fact that so many Republican voters aren't happy with having him as a choice but only vote for him because he's the most electable one offered them must weigh in to that idea as well. Third, even though Romney seems inevitable, there's still the party platform to be hammered out. It looks like they all want to have some say in building that platform and the currency that gives each of them that say is the number of delegates that they hold in their back pockets. Again, it's the change away from winner-take-all that splits up the delegates and enables this reason. Fourth, what are the losing candidates' future plans? This one is just my own crazy thought. Normally, I can only think of one candidate who, election year after election year, went out campaigning in the primaries and, in spite of being a running joke, finally ended up becoming the GOP candidate, the 40th President, a GOP idol, and replacing Thomas Starr King in the Capitol Rotunda. But other than him, I cannot think of any other candidates who lost and came back to try again. Is that something that any of them, include Newt, even consider? Well, this time around Sarah Palin was testing the waters cautiously, but didn't dive in. Could some of the candidates be trying to jockey into some position in the actual Presidential campaign that they hope they can broker into a better chance running in the future?
Why is Newt Gingrich? What's he there for? It would be easy, indeed facile, to explain his candidature with the words "ego trip", except that in fact he must be taking a repeated pummeling to his ego as he finds out that everyone hates him because ... well, because he's filth, I think that's the main reason. He might well be ahead of Santorum if he wasn't such a sack of shit.
Having had to deal with a megalomaniacal creationist he is truly a "sack of shit", I can safely say that a megalomaniacal sack of shit will not recognize that simple fact of life, even though it's obvious to everybody else. Edited by dwise1, : SoS addendum.
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Perdition Member (Idle past 3260 days) Posts: 1593 From: Wisconsin Joined: |
But other than him, I cannot think of any other candidates who lost and came back to try again. McCain was vilified by Bush Jr. then became the nominee in 2008. Romney was destroyed by McCain, then is looking to become the nominee in 2012. Santorum and Gingrich are jockeying to be the runner-up, which means they should be "next in line" for the next contested Republican primary season. If Romney loses to Obama, the ultra conservative wings will say that he lost because he was too moderate, and suddenly Santorum or Gingrich looks good to them again. Im willing to bet on it, unless a scion of a Reopublican family steps in, Santorum or Gingrich will be the nominee in 4 years. (I'm assuming Romney loses, if he doesn't, then one of them will be the nominee in 2020.)
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
The more I listen to the republican candidates, the more they scare the hell out of me. All of them scare the hell out of me.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The share price of the company that wakes Etch-A-Sketch has tripled as a result of Fehrnstrom's remarks.
Personally I don't think it's much of an advertisement. The slogan "Etch-A-Sketch --- It's As Much Fun As Mitt Romney!" isn't going to shift many units.
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Perdition Member (Idle past 3260 days) Posts: 1593 From: Wisconsin Joined: |
Personally I don't think it's much of an advertisement. The slogan "Etch-A-Sketch --- It's As Much Fun As Mitt Romney!" isn't going to shift many units. Nor "Etch-A-Sketch, for the flip-floppers and convictionless."
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
I'm still puzzled how anyone, especially Romney's top advisor, could make such a statement. It's really amazing.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Taz writes: I'm still puzzled how anyone, especially Romney's top advisor, could make such a statement. I think you misspoke a bit here. It is only Romney and his advisors who would not be expected to make such a statement. Most other people know that a) Romney has a history of taking politically expedient positions and b) it is probably true that you cannot get elected president by taking far right positions against college education, women's health, and for teaching poor kids janitorial skills in elementary school.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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perhaps you could find a bigger picture to overload my connection next time.
waste of bandwidth.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
waste of bandwidth.
Yes, it's a waste of bandwidth. On the other hand, I am not using a 110 baud teletype over dialup any more.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi nwr,
On the other hand, I am not using a 110 baud teletype over dialup any more. I use an air card to get online ... so I am dependent on getting good coverage. Where I am the coverage is lousy - barely adequate for phone conversation, and my phone lists it as 1x (it tells me when I have 3g or 4g available). Overall I usually get good coverage, it just happens that this place is a luddite hole. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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