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RAZD
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Message 256 of 341 (656758)
03-21-2012 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by dwise1
03-21-2012 3:46 PM


Re: regarding CrytoGod thread Is evolution based on empirical science?
Hi dwise1,
Somebody needs to point him to the recent discussion of cladistics so that he can understand why his "but they're still fruitflies!" complaint is so incredibly lame.
Indeed.
And also mention that evolution is observed in every generation of every species.
But the likely problem will be hat because he doesn't understand evolution that he won't know even when he is told.
Cognitive dissonance is like that.
Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 257 of 341 (656943)
03-23-2012 12:34 PM


is IQ165+ real or a joke?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sophiq/
quote:
Admission to this group is based upon convincing evidence of an IQ "somewhere around 165" (or higher)! High verbal ability is particularly cherished, as is an insatiable, inimitable, impractical sense of bad humor!
Is this our latest poster?
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Panda
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Message 258 of 341 (656946)
03-23-2012 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by RAZD
03-23-2012 12:34 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
RADZ writes:
Is this our latest poster?
I suspect not.
Do a search for "joe_lynch_27" in google for a possible insight into his character...

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Dr Adequate
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Message 259 of 341 (656954)
03-23-2012 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by RAZD
03-23-2012 12:34 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
That's a false dichotomy. He's real and a joke.
I look forward to the promotion of his thread. Arguably I am not a nice person.

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Message 260 of 341 (656956)
03-23-2012 2:39 PM
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03-23-2012 12:34 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
I suspect that once you get out of, say, for example, the IQ bracket 95-105, that the error term and confidence of your estimate deteriorates rapidly.
So I vote 165+ = a joke.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 261 of 341 (656959)
03-23-2012 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by xongsmith
03-23-2012 2:39 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
Of course, we're just relying on his own claim of 165 I.Q. I certainly see nothing in his post to support that claim.
I vote for real joke.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 262 of 341 (656960)
03-23-2012 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by subbie
03-23-2012 4:07 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
The problem with IQ tests is their inability to test innate intelligence. IQ tests can only measure how intelligently someone thinks using the knowledge they have.
Based upon his knowledge of grammar and how to construct contractions in the English language ("Ok, lets do this systematic"), we'll subtract 20 points to give him an IQ of 145.
Based upon his knowledge of evolution ("It was because of fossils that the first evolutionist came into being..."), we'll subtract another 20 points to give him an IQ of 125.
Based upon his misuse of words ("For there own gain"), we'll subtract another 20 points to give him an IQ of 105.
Based upon his invocation of Genesis, the Bible, God and Satan in a science thread, we'll subtract another 20 points to give him an IQ of 85.
Based upon his misunderstanding of geology ("Because if fossils happened the way that they have devised then there would be a huge layer depth change in the spot where the fossil was to represent the local flood"), we'll subtract another 20 points to give him an IQ of 65.
And based upon his inappropriate and extremely odd formatting with all the dashes and indentations, we'll subtract another 20 points to give him an IQ of 45.
His link works, so we'll give him 15 points for a final IQ of 60.
--Percy

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Message 263 of 341 (656962)
03-23-2012 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Percy
03-23-2012 4:35 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
The problem with IQ tests is their inability to test innate intelligence. IQ tests can only measure how intelligently someone thinks using the knowledge they have.
His link works, so we'll give him 15 points for a final IQ of 60.
I believe there are other, deeper problems with IQ tests. I don't think they test for things like artistic and creative ability, for one thing. And I'm convinced that there is intelligence of some sort involved in both of these things.
Assuming I'm correct, and if you're feeling generous, I propose adding 15 for the creativity displayed in the formatting style.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 264 of 341 (656963)
03-23-2012 5:21 PM
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03-23-2012 4:59 PM


Re: is IQ165+ real or a joke?
Assuming I'm correct, and if you're feeling generous, I propose adding 15 for the creativity displayed in the formatting style.
I'm ok with that, but I will be taking 15 more away for this one:
"Then think of all the atoms in the universe,
Which all have multiple electrons,"
Isn't it general knowledge that the most abundant element in the universe is hydrogen, and that hydrogen only has one electron?
(for gamers in the know, this is a definite 50 DKP minus)

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Message 265 of 341 (656965)
03-23-2012 5:28 PM


Attention
The spirit of this thread seems to have been subverted. It is not intended as a peanut gallery for the PNT forum, so can we please stop using it like one?

crashfrog
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Message 266 of 341 (656992)
03-24-2012 12:38 PM


Anybody else here at Reason Rally? Its pissing down!

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Message 267 of 341 (656993)
03-24-2012 12:42 PM


HUNTARD!!!!!
I need your help man. I need to change my Windows 7 language (on my HTPC) from Dutch to English and fuck me if I can't read Dutch for shit....

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 268 of 341 (657017)
03-24-2012 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by hooah212002
03-24-2012 12:42 PM


Re: HUNTARD!!!!!
I happen to be dutch as well, can I help?
also, try google translate, it should deal with the easier words.

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Message 269 of 341 (657018)
03-24-2012 4:24 PM
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03-24-2012 4:08 PM


Re: HUNTARD!!!!!
Well, i didn't exactly want to have to look up each individual word as i went along. Anyhow, I figured it out and it sucks because windows doesn't appear to actually translate everything. I'm just going to aquire an English version. Thanks anyways.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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RAZD
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Message 270 of 341 (657031)
03-24-2012 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by hooah212002
03-24-2012 4:24 PM


Ubuntu!!!!!
hi hooah22002
I'm just going to aquire an English version.
Why?
You could try Ubuntu 10 for free.
Enjoyh

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