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Son
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Message 313 of 314 (657417)
03-28-2012 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 309 by onifre
03-27-2012 8:29 PM


Re: Muffin Tops and Skinny Jeans
Onifire writes:
We are not paying 100% more than other countries because we have more fatties.
Yes we are. As a whole the more obese, unhealthy people, who then grow old - living longer, unhealthier lives due to medicine (which is profited from) - make the system easy to profit from and a target for those looking to exploit it.
- Oni
Do you have any evidence for this affirmation? It seems you're doing a lot of rambling in this thread without evidences to back your position.
As for the evidence for the matter of added cost due to the increased prevalence of obesity:
CDC - Page Not Found
The medical care costs of obesity in the United States are staggering. In 2008 dollars, these costs totaled about $147 billion (Finkelstein, 2009)
30% obesity would result in an increase in cost of $147 billions for healthcare, meaning that 23% obesity would result in an added cost $112.7 billons and US increased obesity of 7% compared to the UK would account for a $34.3 billions difference in cost (if both countries had the same population).
Compare that to the total cost of Healthcare in the US:
--> --> -->National Health Expenditure Data | CMS
U.S. health care spending accelerated slightly in 2010, increasing 3.9 percent compared to growth of 3.8 percent in 2009. Total health expenditures reached $2.6 trillion, which translates to $8,402 per person or 17.9 percent of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, the same share as in 2009.
Which would amount to around $2.3 trillions (at best) in cost for healthcare, with the added cost due to the added obesity representing less than 2% of this amount.
Now Onifire, explain to us how does the increase in obesity account for a doubling in cost per capita for healthcare in the US?
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