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Buzsaw
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Message 60 of 126 (659587)
04-17-2012 3:01 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Taz
04-17-2012 1:16 AM


Say What On Constitution?
I read carefully, Jar, but apparently you didn't
These are some quotes from them posted in my message.Jar. By law is implied, that all disobaying would be subject to arrest.
RAZD writes:
What about tests for the politicians to pass before they can be a candidate?
Publish the results for the candidates that pass, with the correct answers.
The test should include constitutional law and general knowledge as well as questions on how science works, and questions specific to their chosen position they are running for.
Taz writes:
Absolutely!
Thank you for not purposefully misunderstanding what I mean. Whenever I bring up this proposal of mine, people always call it fascism and all that BS.
Taz writes:
It seems like it's almost impossible to have an intelligent conversation these days without people entrenching themselves in some kind of extreme position or paint a strawman picture of the other side.
Taz writes:
But yes, the point I've been trying to make is we should make people like tea baggers realize how stupid they are. And we ought to expose crank candidates like Sarah Palin or Christine Odonnell by making them them take these tests and answer questions directly.
Taz writes:
There ought to be a law penalizing politicians for dancing around like that instead of answer the question.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 93 of 126 (660095)
04-20-2012 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by frako
04-17-2012 4:44 AM


Re: Say What On Constitution?
frako writes:
Razd & Taz, ole chumps, come, let us reason together.
Razd, you, liberal biased citizen, Big Banger evolutionist, secularistic minded citizen of these United States, would, by law, require each and every citizen in these 50 states to be subjected to what you think in your mindsets.
No just about basic facts and SCIENTIFIC theories.
Most Americans, including all creationists and many secularists do not ascribe to some basic alleged facts and scientific theories.
So now, you, Razd and Taz would require all, by law to be subjected to the science you ascribe to? All who refuse would be outlaws subjected to arrest?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 95 of 126 (660097)
04-20-2012 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by New Cat's Eye
04-20-2012 3:07 PM


Re Who Are Scientists?
CS writes:
A professional scientist is one that publishes original research.
So what do you call reserchers, and others doing science as a profession but never pulished?

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Buzsaw
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Message 97 of 126 (660100)
04-20-2012 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by jar
04-20-2012 9:10 PM


Re: Say What On Constitution?
jar writes:
Come on Buz, you don't arrest folk for being ignorant.
You just don't bother hiring them.
This is what all three agreed to:
Message 60

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 115 of 126 (660697)
04-28-2012 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by dwise1
04-11-2012 3:09 AM


Re: Governor's Inaction
dwise writes:
What? Nobody was monitoring this one? The Governor ignored this one and it automatically became a law.
Likely the good governor ignored this one on purpose so as to balance out the educational agenda regarding evolution vs creationism. It's about time some fairness and balance should be guaranteed in the educational arena, unlike EvC where members like me simply get banned from science debates so as for evolution to be the required science agenda debated/discussed. Only non-effective, easily refuted creationists allowed in the science fora.
"Monkey bill" enacted in Tennessee
dwise writes:
Governor Bill Haslam allowed Tennessee's House Bill 368 to become law without his signature on April 10, 2012, according to the Memphis Commercial Appeal (April 10, 2012). The law encourages teachers to present the "scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses" of topics that arouse "debate and disputation" such as "biological evolution, the chemical origins of life, global warming, and human cloning."
Pray tell, Dwise, what's wrong with presenting strengths and scientific weaknesses of both creationism and evolution?
dwise writes:
This is the first bill in the Governor's 15 months in office that he allowed to be passed by being ignored.
Kudos to him. Now the students can learn both POVs so as to make up their minds rationally and objectively.
dwise writes:
The bill ... er, law, purports to defend a teacher from repercussions for presenting negative evidence of certain scientific ideas. The bill ... er, law, only specifies science classes to be subject to this law, not other classes. The law specifically targets evolution, climate change, and human cloning. The sponsor of the bill, the aforementioned former state senator, works for a very specifically religious organization. Furthermore, the only "negative evidence of said scientific ideas" can be found amongst creationists and IDists. And a scientist and wife of a high school science teacher interviewed on the afore-linked-to NPR program, "Which Way, LA?", pointed out that teachers have always been allowed to present opposing scientific ideas into their classrooms, so that law is totally unnecessary. The only purpose that the law could possibly serve would be to allow teachers to bring in religious creationist materials.
It only applies to science because like EvC, science is the only subject that is not fair and balanced ideologically. Now, at least students and their parents are guaranteed fair an balanced science education to be taught.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Tidy up spelling, etc

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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Buzsaw
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Message 121 of 126 (660724)
04-28-2012 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Tanypteryx
04-28-2012 6:57 PM


Re: Governor's Inaction
Tanypteryx writes:
You are a funny guy, Buz. We all know you would be madder than hell if the strengths and weaknesses of creationism were taught. There are no strengths to be found in creationism.....NOT ONE!
Not at all. I do as much or more critiquing of mainline creationists relative to origins as evolutionists do. That's why my unique Biblical record take on origins, etc do more to kick butt on evolution and the BB, etc than that of creationists educated in the colleges and seminaries etc are more effective in the science fora etc than theirs. There's is more refutable than mine, yet they are the only ones allowed to debate the science threads and some Bible related threads in the science forum.
Most educated creationists have been spoon fed for a few years in colleges and universities whereas I've been studiously in it for 60 plus years since my conversion as a youngster. That's why I'm not much more popular in Christian circles than I am here, because I call them out on stuff they've been brainwashed into.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."

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