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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 582 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
There is no "liberal bias". Conservatives didn't like Wikipedia because of it's "liberal bias" so they started their own Conservative versions. Wikipedia is created by and maintained by the PUBLIC. That means that the PUBLIC has a "liberal bias"?!? That's ridiculous. The Conservatives think that the country adheres to their ridiculous views on everything. When they discover that they are wrong, they pout and say it's unfair. Guess what, we aren't going to be living under Mosaic Law no matter how much you kick and whine. I'm having a hard time trying to follow your logic; that's if you even tried to make an argument. It seems like a bunch of disconnected thoughts to me. So, if there is no liberal bias in the media , then I'm sure you would agree that there is no conservative bias in the media as well?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2492 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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I'm having a hard time trying to follow your logic; that's if you even tried to make an argument. It seems like a bunch of disconnected thoughts to me. So, if there is no liberal bias in the media , then I'm sure you would agree that there is no conservative bias in the media as well? You are the one that seems confused. I'm going to use math for an example.0 is neither a negative nor a positive number. -1 is a negative number +1 is a positive number Imagine a scale from -10 to +10. On this scale, a -10 represents the Conservative ideal world. A +10 represents the Liberal ideal world. I pick negative for Conservatives because they consistently oppose forward movement in anything, desiring to revert America back to the imaginary world they think existed in the 1950s. So, from the Conservative perspective, if the media scores a "0", they would be without any bias whatsoever. The problem is that the PUBLIC and REALITY are at about a "3" on the scale.In fact, news organizations would have to institute a Conservative bias just to get to "neutral" between what the Conservatives want and what the Liberals want. This is because the Conservatives are OUT OF TOUCH. So, from your perspective, there is a bias because news organizations report facts and facts are unfavorable to your positions. The exception is Fox News, which doesn't report facts, it reports opinions which have been handed to them by Conservative political figures. You can LITERALLY see them reading the Conservative Talking points as if it were news. It's not "unfair" that the media doesn't lie in order to make things nicer for your opinion. Your opinion is wrong because it's based on a fantasy. 45% of Conservatives believe they are in the top 10% of earners in the country. Think about that.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi foreveryoung,
I'm having a hard time trying to follow your logic; that's if you even tried to make an argument. It seems like a bunch of disconnected thoughts to me. So, if there is no liberal bias in the media , then I'm sure you would agree that there is no conservative bias in the media as well? If a politician gets involved in a scandal then it is covered by the news, regardless of the political stripe of the politician. What I would agree is that there is no political bias, rather that the bias today in news is for sensationalism and "infotainment" rather than honest reporting on the facts. Young people these days do not know what real news was like, when politicians made silly statements and were called out on them by the press. The whole paradigm of Fox that a "fair and balanced" reporting is necessary is false: this assumes that people doing silly things happens in a fair and balanced manner, that there is a fair and balanced view to both sides of an issue rather than a valid and invalid one. It's like saying a mass abuser on trial can only be confronted by one accuser so that the trial is fair and balanced. The whole bias of Fox is to entertain gullible people and lull them into a world of false concepts portrayed as truths: this is evidenced by a poll that showed that Fox viewers knew LESS about world events than people that did not watch ANY news. The idea that "fair and balanced" is necessary for reporting the news assumes that events occur in a fair and balanced manner, that there necessarily are as many democratic politicians as republican politicians involved in scandals, and that is just not logically valid. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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What is that supposed to prove? That those news sources don't have a liberal bias?
You completely missed his point. He was talking about that "e-word" you despise so much: evidence. IOW, if one wants to claim that ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, or NPR are "far left", then it is incumbent on one to provide examples to support that claim (AKA "evidence"). IOW, if you make a claim, you need to be able to back up that claim. A simple concept, really, and one that you will encounter all the time in geology.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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MEDIA FAIL: Why Is It OK For Ted Nugent To Say It, But Not The Dixie Chicks?!? - Upworthy
quote: So is this liberal bias? Is this "fair and balanced"? Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4228 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
It's not just Fox that seems to be posting Faux News. Faux news...lol...that is sssooo creative. did you come up with that one by yourself?
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 4228 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
what happened to the Dixie chicks has nothing to do with fox news, nor does what didn't happen to sweaty teddy.
and what is with that comparison between country music and hard rock (oh yeah i forgot this is from some random blog you found). you should compare the Dixie Chicks (country) and Hank Williams Jr (country). oh, wait Hank did get in trouble for saying bad things about the POTUS.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
In Message 161 you posted "If the thread is about Obama, or criticizing the left the thread is closed within the 1st 15-30 pages, they don't last that long."?
Fifteen pages at 10 messages a page equals ? Fifteen pages at 20 messages a page is? Fifteen pages at 30 messages a page is? Thirty pages at 10 messages a page equals? Thirty pages at 20 messages a page equals? It's not just Fox that seems to be posting Faux News. Edited by jar, : senior momentAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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You don't mean to say that AE made a factual claim, then ran away from questions about it, unable to back up what he said, do you?
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi Artemis Entreri
what happened to the Dixie chicks has nothing to do with fox news, nor does what didn't happen to sweaty teddy. Correct, it has to do with the false claim of liberal bias in the media, which Fox\Faux (and Faux is old btw usage here) and what is with that comparison between country music and hard rock (oh yeah i forgot this is from some random blog you found). you should compare the Dixie Chicks (country) and Hank Williams Jr (country). oh, wait Hank did get in trouble for saying bad things about the POTUS. Apologetics in action, thanks for demonstrating that you personally give a pass to someone who threatens the POTUS versus someone who just comments about the war. What is compared is (A) public people making a rather common liberal comment about war, to (B) public person making an extremist position targeting the life of the President, and what the reactions in the public and in the media that followed. Do you really think they are not comparable? Or do you just not want to admit to yourself that there really is a difference in how these are reported on and covered. Cognitive dissonance is like that. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : clrrtyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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I am in no position to comment. I am not a country fan, but that they had expressed disapproval of an obvious Republican idiot should have had no effect on their career. Is there really such a right-wing, Republican-idiosy requirement in the country music scene?
However, I retired from about 34 years of military service in November 2011. A few months later, I visited my old unit as a retiree. The sentiment that I conveyed to my old CO, one which he obviously appreciated, was that I had received my retirement certificate and letter from President Barack Obama and not some fracking stupid Republican.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Faux news...lol...that is sssooo creative. did you come up with that one by yourself? The phrase "Did you come up with that one by yourself?" gets 682,000 google hits.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
and the phrase "faux news" gets "About 53,200,000 results"
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
and the phrase "faux news" gets "About 53,200,000 results" No it doesn't. The two words faux and news get that many results in conjunction. The phrase "faux news" only gets 1,060,000.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
and when I do → "fauxnews" ← - I get
About 76,300 results (0.17 seconds) ... which, as far as I am concerned are the same thing.
The phrase "faux news" only gets 1,060,00 Which I would have said was ""faux news"" ... on of the problems with quoting google inputs Certainly way more hits that Aertemis's phrase, by orders of magnitude. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : clrtyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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