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Author Topic:   Is truth or evidence more important in science and evolution?
ScottyDouglas
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Message 44 of 55 (662663)
05-17-2012 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by jar
05-16-2012 10:09 AM


Re: where's the evidence?
First off I do not need evidence. I do not have to prove anything. I do not have to show God exists. I do not have to explain how I exsperienced him. I did. You havent. That is not my fault nor my problem. That seems to be peoples problem. The read the Bible and say this is hocus pocus and not reality because it does not happen today. Not true. You can not discredit something that is not provable in the first place. The Bible says many times over and over that you must have faith. How can someone attempt to read and understand a book that requires faith when you have none?
The topic is: truth or evidence which is more important in science and evolution? Answer - evidence. Hints no faith and therefore not capable of understanding truth and furthermore God.
Edited by ScottyDouglas, : No reason given.

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ScottyDouglas
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Message 45 of 55 (662666)
05-17-2012 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Theodoric
05-15-2012 8:36 AM


Truth is what actually happened. No dogma. No theories. The truth is what happened and what will happen. It can be proven by evidence. It can be proven by it accuring. Truth can be visual and invisable. Evidence does not make truth but it supports it. Physical means does not make it truth but it reflects truth.
Im not refusing science and thier methods. I know science seeks physical reality. I applaud that. Going beyond our physical reality to make calculations and predictions is not truth. God reveals himself to someone they can not prove it and most cases are though as fantasing. That does not mean they are in fantasy though and what they experienced is real. It is not physical. Science only can determine physical means and anything outside that is beyond what science can offer.
If something is beyond science then how can science achieve it? They can not they would need other sources and experts.

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ScottyDouglas
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Message 47 of 55 (662669)
05-17-2012 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by jar
05-16-2012 10:09 AM


Re: where's the evidence?
Why would I test and make sure it was God in the first place if it overcame me? Seems because someone who has no faith can not recieve God that is my problem. That because I hear and feel the presence of God then there is something wrong with me. When I feel the Creator an you do not who is outside reality?

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ScottyDouglas
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Message 48 of 55 (662670)
05-17-2012 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by jar
05-17-2012 6:45 PM


Re: where's the evidence?
Trumps it where? Reality? What if what you percieve as real isnt? I esplained my reasons an gave a portion of my testimony but that is not good enough. Fact is to all you Godless people nothing will be good enough. God came to me and spoke and revealed himself to me that is truth. Careless if you believe it or not. I do care if you never experience it because you will death without truth. But you do not care. You want God to show he is real and if he does not then He aint. Doesnt work that way slim.

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ScottyDouglas
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Message 50 of 55 (662684)
05-17-2012 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by jar
05-17-2012 7:02 PM


Re: where's the evidence?
Your words and discontent speaks of what you believe. As does mine.
And at the time I could not tell you I was not overcome by satan. Other than that spirit told me to ask for forgiveness and bow down and confess my sins and ask Jesus to save me. I was overcome with this thought and feeling. At times I do things I am so ashamed of I question how I could do these things if I had God. But I know I do and I feel him. He convicts me and comforts me. He blesses me. I have had many hardaches in this life and I always look at as im blessed. I have a positive attitude and no nonsense type attitude. I do not hold anger and resentment. I forgive and love. But sometimes I do not communicate well and do not understand. I am guilty there.
I do not understand how people do not feel and know God because I do and it has been easy. I have always had this feeling it feels like I have and I am thankful for it.
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