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Author Topic:   Is truth or evidence more important in science and evolution?
jar
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Message 20 of 55 (662391)
05-15-2012 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by ScottyDouglas
05-15-2012 1:24 AM


where's the evidence?
You said "Truth:to me: Is the state of being in reality. Validated evidence."
Please present the validated evidence that God showed you as well as the evidence that it really was God that was doing the showing.

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Message 21 of 55 (662392)
05-15-2012 9:32 AM
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05-14-2012 10:25 PM


source versus content.
ScottyDouglas writes:
So the main question is for anyone and anybody.
Is learning the truth of origin more important?
Or is learning and predicting by the evidence collected more important?
What do you mean by "truth of origin"?

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Message 41 of 55 (662508)
05-16-2012 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by ScottyDouglas
05-16-2012 12:50 AM


Re: where's the evidence?
How did you test to make sure it was God not just a bad burrito?
And No One knows if they are saved until after they are dead and judged.
Sorry Charlie, you don't get the worm.
So you have no evidence to offer. Okay.
Do you know what the term "empirical" means?
Where's the evidence?
We are in a sub-forum where it is expected that you will actually provide at a minimum a reasoned argument for your position. Hopefully you might even come up with a convincing one, but "I experienced God when I was 8 years old" is not gonna cut it.

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Message 46 of 55 (662668)
05-17-2012 6:45 PM
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05-17-2012 6:29 PM


Re: where's the evidence?
Word salad.
No one is trying to disprove God, that's irrelevant.
But you made a claim about something you claimed happened.
I asked a simple question. How did you test to make sure it was God not just a bad burrito?
Nothing in the Bible says you need to have faith to understand the Bible. Have you ever read one?
The topic is one of those really worthless questions.
The way you know something is true is by testing it, whether it is the Bible or Science.
Now if you want to come here and claim that "you think you experienced God", then folk might laugh a little or even ask what it was like, but that's about it.
The important thing about science, the reason that science is really, really important, is that faith has absolutely no effect on truth or reality. Science shows us that it don't matter how much faith you have, reality trumps faith every time.

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Message 49 of 55 (662673)
05-17-2012 7:02 PM
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05-17-2012 6:52 PM


Re: where's the evidence?
ScottyDouglas writes:
Why would I test and make sure it was God in the first place if it overcame me? Seems because someone who has no faith can not recieve God that is my problem. That because I hear and feel the presence of God then there is something wrong with me. When I feel the Creator an you do not who is outside reality?
What makes you think you weren't overcome by Satan?
And perhaps you need to learn a little more before you attempt to try to say what I think or believe.
ScottyDouglas writes:
Trumps it where? Reality? What if what you percieve as real isnt? I esplained my reasons an gave a portion of my testimony but that is not good enough. Fact is to all you Godless people nothing will be good enough. God came to me and spoke and revealed himself to me that is truth. Careless if you believe it or not. I do care if you never experience it because you will death without truth. But you do not care. You want God to show he is real and if he does not then He aint. Doesnt work that way slim.
Scotty, Scotty, Scotty.
I test what I perceive to find out if it is real or not. It really is that simple.
But remember, the Bible shows that the Goats will be believers, and the Sheep unbelievers. Remember where they get sent.
And again, it would be wise if you actually learned a little before you tried telling me what I think and believe.

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jar
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Message 51 of 55 (662685)
05-17-2012 10:15 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by ScottyDouglas
05-17-2012 10:10 PM


Re: where's the evidence?
You were eight years old, your brain had not yet fully developed and you had no experience or training in critical thinking.
You have obviously not read my words and I have absolutely no idea what discontent you see.
And that still has no relevance to this topic that I can see.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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