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Message 236 of 313 (665133)
06-08-2012 3:09 PM


Be Biased Towards the Truth
Frankly, I prefer to watch programs that are biased towards the truth. That is what disgusts me most about Fox is that they will push known lies, or feel it necessary to have liars on their programs for "balance".
We really need to get over the idea that the truth needs to be balanced by lies. It is one of the greatest scams that the Republicans have pulled off in recent years, that somehow the truth needs to fought with lies. Death panels? Birthers? Global climate change denial? Evolution denial? Guess where you find these? In the Republican party and pushed by Fox News.
Sorry, but if reporting the truth is bias then bias is what I want.

  
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Message 279 of 313 (729128)
06-05-2014 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Diomedes
04-04-2014 9:30 AM


Re: Due When? Why?
Also (ironically), a time that right wingers often cite as being the 'good times'.
I think that had more to do with how they were allowed to treat minorities and women.

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Message 285 of 313 (807505)
05-03-2017 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 282 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 8:18 AM


Davidjay writes:
Almost all news is false news.
Perhaps you could go to a widely known news organization, pick out 2 or 3 stories from a single day, and show how they are false. Otherwise, I can only conclude that you are blowing smoke.

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Message 287 of 313 (808155)
05-08-2017 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by RAZD
05-04-2017 7:18 AM


RAZD writes:
When they report on protests they focus on violent incidents rather than the much larger body of peaceful protesters and their message.
Then there are the stories that just don't make it to national coverage, like the #NoDAPL protests.
They also don't report on the hundreds of millions of people who don't commit murder every day. I guess I don't sit around and wonder why that is.

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Message 289 of 313 (808270)
05-09-2017 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by RAZD
05-09-2017 7:32 AM


RAZD writes:
Yet the Bundy occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters had no end of coverage.
Are they supposed to cover the hundreds of millions of people who don't overrun government installations?
The point being that the news is biased in what it covers. What it chooses to cover and how they choose to cover stories present a false picture that is every much a lie of omission.
News is limited since they only have so many outlets and so many hours in the day. Limited isn't biased. They can't publish every single event that every person experiences every second of the day.
At the end of the day, they report what they think the public is interested in.
Right wing reactionary anti-government protests okay.
Left wing progressive anti-corporation protests not okay.
They covered the Occupy movement as well. They covered the DAPL protests.

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Message 293 of 313 (809246)
05-17-2017 11:53 AM
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05-17-2017 11:38 AM


caffeine writes:
You claim the criteria is publishing what they think the public want to hear. That may often be the case; but what if Joe Editor thinks the public mainly wants to hear about Muslim immigrants raping European women? Even if every word they print is the unvarnished truth; if they're hunting around for every case they can find of someone being raped by a Muslim immigrant then they are producing a biased picture of the world.
Who assumes that every single news agency is reporting everything that ever happens?
The expectation is that every news agency will produce a limited view of the world. What we also expect is that a news agency will accurately and fairly report on the news they do present. Bias becomes a problem when a news story is purposefully skewed to favor a certain political view.
In a way, we get the press we deserve. News agencies are not subsidized by independent pools of money, but are instead fueled by ad revenue that depends on eyeballs. Profit drives news, so news agencies will typically show news that will get the most eyeballs. At the same time, many journalists (I would say a vast majority) still have some integrity. While they know certain news stories can drive ad revenue, they still report on less popular news on the backs of the profit driven by other news stories.
Our press is a reflection of our culture. It is a formalized version of the town gossip. As long as our culture cherishes the truth then we will expect the truth from our press, and that is what we mean by bias.

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Message 302 of 313 (810211)
05-25-2017 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by NoNukes
05-23-2017 8:50 PM


Re: Fox removes baseless, fake news story.
NoNukes writes:
There was no source. Totally baseless. None of which kept sites like Breitbart and InfoWars from running BS stories on the topic.
It appears that the Conservative echo chamber is in full effect. They send out baseless conspiracy theories, and then when they hear those theories repeated back to them they cite it as a source.

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Message 304 of 313 (810221)
05-25-2017 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by LamarkNewAge
05-25-2017 6:02 PM


Re: Conservatives should (like the rest of us ) not trust the media.
LamarckNewAge writes:
A candidate for the Democratic Presidential Primary got 496,000 votes (out of around 9 million cast ) against Clinton in 1996, but was blacked out by the media.
What are you going on about?

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