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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And he is quoting from their definition of "atheism" and not "atheist".
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And in the end, it is reality that controls science despite what marc9000 might wish.
No matter how fervently he might wish it, things like young earth, Creationism, the Biblical Flood, the Garden of Eden or Adam and Eve will never again be considered as scientific. It really is that simple. Reality won.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Mostly in the US. The reality is that other nations will step up and do the research and the US will simply get left behind yet again.
Religion has often been a stumbling block where science is concerned, but in the long run religious interference simply loses. An example was the delay in medicine caused by religious objections to autopsies on human bodies.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The Dalai Lama was once asked "What if you found out that there was no God, no rebirth, no afterlife?" His reply was "Then we would have to say that we were wrong."
If Creationists presented the "Creator" or if ID Proponents presented the "Designer", then science would say "We were wrong." And that is the big difference. Science is built on learning "We were wrong" and embraces that.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Biology, Chemistry and Physics would have to say they were wrong as a start.
If hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water simply because some God or Designer decided that's how it would be until She changed her mind it eliminates all we know about chemistry. If lightning is really just the result of God getting pissed then we need to rethink all we know about physics.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are free to disagree.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Perhaps you can point out where I said that.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Which is irrelevant to what you claim I said.
hoo writes: And you are free to provide evidence that natural science has ANYTHING to say about gods since you are the one that made the claim. I never said natural science has anything to say about gods.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
In NOT saying anything about the Creator or Designer and thinking that chemistry and biology and physics happened because of natural laws instead of whim.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Exactly correct. As I said in Message 96 that is the value of science.
quote: When new evidence is presented an honest scientist says, "Whoops, what I thought was the answer is wrong."Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You are free to hold whatever opinion you want, but I used the terms creator and designer for specific reasons, that the terms imply direct control.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Maybe shudda wudda cudda.
But as you yourself point out that is not the Creator that is marketed by either the Creationists or ID Salesmen.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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I have never been able to figure out what Genomicus argues for.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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