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Dr Adequate
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Message 8 of 124 (671061)
08-22-2012 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by marc9000
08-19-2012 7:27 PM


Let's hope he doesn't find out how we rig the elections.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 31 of 124 (671197)
08-22-2012 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by marc9000
08-22-2012 8:03 PM


Re: Atheists? control science
A legitimate question - my definition of atheist in this case is anyone with a political opposition to traditional religious practice in the U.S. such as, but not limited to;
*The words "In God We Trust" on our money
*The few tax advantages that churches receive
*Public Ten Commandments displays
*Most importantly, "endowed by our CREATOR with certain unalienable rights". I realize that the word "creator" and "God" are nowhere to be found in the constitution, but that phrase is in the declaration, and the liberty and limited government that the constitution is about followed it. So by the time this thread is over, there should be a much better understanding of why science really is saturated with politics ...
Well, not all that saturated. I did a search of PubMed. The phrase "In God We Trust" gets no hits. "Endowed by our CREATOR with certain unalienable rights", no hits. "Ten Commandments displays", no hits. "Tax advantages" and churches, no hits.
Whereas for phrases that actually have something to do with science in some way ... biochemistry, 712775 hits, evolution, 323160 hits, genetics, 2387746 hits.
It seems that science is not in fact saturated with political discussion of church-state separation. For some reason science seems much more saturated with science. Strange yet true.
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As the word "atheist" already has a meaning, namely someone who doesn't believe in God, I suggest you find some other term for someone who believes in the separation of church and state. How about "constitutionalist"? or maybe "foundingfatherist"?
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Dr Adequate
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Message 49 of 124 (671512)
08-26-2012 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by marc9000
08-26-2012 7:22 PM


You said that Shermer had no scientific credentials.
I said that wasn't a scientist.
Percy said that he had scientific credentials.
Of course I didn't correct him. He's not wrong. Nor is he disagreeing with what I wrote.

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Message 52 of 124 (671515)
08-26-2012 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by marc9000
08-26-2012 7:22 PM


What bothers me is that it’s no longer controlled by people who know what its limits should be.
You mean like Pope Urban VIII did?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 63 of 124 (671544)
08-27-2012 7:04 AM
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08-27-2012 3:17 AM


How do American atheists determine the science practiced by neighbour here in England who's looking into the genetic basis for addiction?
Clearly he's an atheist, or he'd seek the basis for addiction in demonic possession and the cure for it in prayer, like all real Christians would do.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 88 of 124 (671680)
08-29-2012 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Coyote
08-29-2012 12:44 AM


You mean people who disagree with you disagree with you?
This is shocking news. Who'd have thought that people who disagree with you would be so intolerant as to disagree with you?
Of course, you have been known to disagree with people whom you disagree with, but that's not intolerance. When you do it it's freedom of speech ... I guess you're just lucky that way. I hope this good fortune compensates you for your apparent inability to grow a pair.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 123 of 124 (671889)
08-31-2012 4:19 AM
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08-31-2012 2:09 AM


"They fail to realize that [...] it was the received view among scientists at the time."
This may not be the most absurd lie the Roman Catholic Church has ever told, but it's got to be up there. Of course everyone who's taken the remotest interest in Galileo knows that he was one of the pioneers of heliocentrism, that's one of the principsal reasons why he's famous. The RCC is not blamed simply for disagreeing with him, but for forcibly suppressing his ideas. And I don't know why they even try to tell such a silly lie except that if you've been telling silly lies for two thousand years it becomes a habit.

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