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Author Topic:   Can the Christian God exist without the Bible?
jar
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Message 81 of 106 (673314)
09-18-2012 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Hawkins
09-18-2012 1:02 PM


unworthy gods.
If you believe in some God that cares only about His sheep then you believe in a God that is unworthy of my respect or worship and that quite frankly, one that as a Christian I must oppose.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 84 of 106 (673321)
09-18-2012 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Hawkins
09-18-2012 2:58 PM


Re: unworthy gods.
Sorry but as a Christian I must point out to you that the god you are trying to market is just plain evil and unworthy of my respect but certainly worthy of my contempt.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 91 of 106 (673362)
09-18-2012 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Hawkins
09-18-2012 3:08 PM


Re: unworthy gods.
On the other hand, that usually is based on your own interpretation and mostly your own intelligence which you don't have the capability to doubt about.
This can be told even from your own wording,
"you are trying to market"
don't assume so! In the end, it's your own life which only you would care. If you don't no one will.
HUH?
I'm sorry but that is simply nonsense.
Of course I have the capability to doubt, and of course I am limited to my own intelligence just as anyone else is limited to their own intelligence.
And when you say "don't assume so! In the end, it's your own life which only you would care. If you don't no one will." it simply supports my position.
What you are marketing is what Jesus preached against in Luke 4 and the position of the Goats in Matthew 25.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 95 of 106 (673369)
09-18-2012 4:45 PM
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09-18-2012 4:37 PM


Re: unworthy gods.
Sorry but again, you are marketing only the "What's in it for me" Christianity.
That is simply too small and worthless for me to consider.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 97 of 106 (673378)
09-18-2012 4:54 PM
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09-18-2012 4:47 PM


Re: unworthy gods.
Who cares what?
If GOD exists and if there is an afterlife and if there is a heaven I am quite sure there will be far more atheists, agnostics, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Taoists, Wicaans, Satanists, followers of Confucius, Mencius, Buddha and animists then Christians sitting at the table.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 104 of 106 (793633)
11-02-2016 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Phat
11-02-2016 4:15 PM


Re: No Bible? Know God. Know whatImean?
Phat writes:
I maintain that GOD can be known through Jesus Christ. Critics may point out that my belief originates from the writings and bias of humans.
The counterargument is that scripture is inspired by God and not by the motive, means, and opportunity of human authors.
Come on Phat. If it were not for the Bible you would have never even heard of Jesus. And despite you maintaining the fiction, you have never explained how anyone can know anything through Jesus Christ or even what the hell that means?
Phat writes:
So are you saying in essense that even if Scripture came directly from GOD, humans would still pick and choose what they wanted to believe?
Not exactly although ALL of the evidence shows that is just a truism, what I am saying is that if Scripture came directly from God, God could not get the story straight or tell the truth or be consistent or hide its ignorance or even pretend to be fair or just or moral.

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jar
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Message 106 of 106 (793666)
11-03-2016 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by Phat
11-03-2016 8:28 AM


Re: Learning On The Job
Phat writes:
How did people hear of Him before there was a Bible?
People heard about Jesus from those who were marketing the various stories about Jesus.
Phat writes:
Do you believe that GOD raised Him from the dead?
What I believe is irrelevant to either the topic or anything I have posted.
Phat writes:
What sense does it make for a charge to be doing for others without an inner transformation?
I have no idea what an inner transformation might be or what value it might have. The sense is that the hungry get fed, the naked clothed, the sick healed, the sorrowful comforted, the weak protected, the homeless sheltered ...
Phat writes:
When Jesus said "feed my sheep" was He only talking about taters and beef stew?
Yes.
Phat writes:
What other ways might a creative servant enlighten you?
Show me were and how to get fed, clothed, comforted, sheltered, protected and charge me to do so for others.
Phat writes:
Would you resist an invitation to kneel at the altar with them? Would the old cuss want to keep his own free will?
What does any of that even mean?
Edited by jar, : remove extra line

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