Ann Coulter (Is she hateful?)

Simply asserting that the Jesuits were opposed to the "liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation is NOT evidence of anything, jar, it's just what I called it, a bare assertion."Liberalism" of the Protestant Reformation, my foot. They opposed the Protestant Reformation because it got back to the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, a pretty conservative move if you ask me, and threw out the traditions of Rome that were contrary to the true Biblical faith, and their objective was to bring people back to the Pope. Still is.As I just explained to Panda, those terms are Liberal Agenda terms, they mark the university as a liberal university, and the phrase "hate speech" marks your "conservative" Jesuit as a liberal. That's the point I was making. I made it and it stands, your liberal spin notwithstanding. Edited by Faith, : add signature

That should be blatantly obvious to you by now. Media liberals don't know they are liberal. Liberal politicians don't know they are liberal. EVC liberals don't know they are liberal. All they know is that they are not hateful, reactionary, homophobic right wingers.

Damn. You make me jealous. That is exactly the kind of response I wish I had floating around in my noggin. The logic of it was in bits and pieces and unconnected in my subconscious. This is exactly how I thought but it takes someone who has put all the pieces together in their mind to be able to articulate it.

I don't want to make you jealous, but that was a compliment so thanks. I don't know if you are a Christian or not but if you are, pray God to guide your posts and give you clear thoughts. I do. Not always, unfortunately.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes indeed. But when someone says '{Do} you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?' what they are asking is is it a trait that is acceptable in Christianity? 'Is it the Christian thing to do?', Not, 'is this behaviour unique to Christians?'Is the reason you did not address the other points I raised (in Message 84) because you have conceded them? Or were they just insufficiently interesting to you?

So Matthew 7:12 has nothing to do with what Christianity is all about?

I haven't responded to them because there are a plethora of posts addressed to me and actually I only read your first line. I haven't even read the rest of your post. I can only stand to read just so much of your guys posts on here. I just randomly light my eyes on something and I usually can't go very far before I have to respond. That was the case here. As you can see, just one point will go on and on and on and on. Just think what would happen if we engaged on every point you brought up? You guys seem to think I concede points because I don't address them. There are a million such points (hyperbole) directed toward me. You guys get just a few points directed SOLELY at you on a daily basis. Feel fortunate that I responded to you at all.

That's exactly right. Christianity is all about what God did for us through his Son. It has absolutely nothing to do with us and especially nothing to do with our actions.

Which is a just plain silly thing to say but I can try to educate you.When was the Society of Jesus formed? I'd be glad to try to educate you on the Reformation as well but that is a broad subject and so better in another thread. Start a topic on it and we can explore. I don't have a Conservative Jesuit and I doubt you can point out where I made such a claim.So to add to the list are you now saying that today's Conservative supports Hate Speech?If so, then I agree with you.You do understand that Jesus would oppose hate speech?

...really?All that stuff about "what you do to the least of these, you do to me," and "turn the other cheek," and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," all that is irrelevant to Christianity?

That is what I call the "What's in it for ME Christianity". Jesus though spoke constantly about actions, about what his followers and all mankind should do.Have you ever actually read the Bible?

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31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

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32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

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33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

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34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

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35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

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36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

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37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

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38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

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39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

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40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

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41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

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42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

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43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

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44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

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45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

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46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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Do you agree with this, Faith?

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7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
7:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
7:9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
7:10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Why are we engaging a poster who neither reads posts nor presents evidence for his position, who neither addresses the topic nor presented any evidence or reasoning for his OP position?Even Maddie responds to others' posts in some tenuously connected way.Anyway, I'm done, and I'd recommend the same to all. I know we've suffered from a shortage of creationist opponents here, but foreveryoung couldn't support himself, let alone a reasoned position.Besides:

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I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.

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George Bernard Shaw

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I have found that people of faith do not like it when they are shown that their actions go against their belief, they make excuses to cover the fact that they are doing what their faith says not to do. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.