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Tangle
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Message 1 of 18 (680066)
11-16-2012 6:50 AM


There's been a couple of topics lately where a YEC (Faith) has been arguing the whole YEC creationist position.
This for me is incomprehensible - I'm left in a mental flap of just how extreme this position is. To me it means a rejection of almost the entirety of modern science. Great swathes of physics, biology, geology, archaeology, astronomy, anthropology and even maths have to be wrong for them to be right.
Perhaps we could have a shot at putting a list together of stuff that no longer works if the YEC world view is right. (Maybe it's been done before, if so, please point me at it.)

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Message 13 of 18 (680163)
11-18-2012 5:59 AM


I was thinking particularly of those branches of science that would be completely unusable.
Anything to do with palaeontology, all of geology, dendrochronology, any archaeology and anthropology older than say 4,500 years.
Evolution of course but also the lumps of genetics dealing with mutation, variation (eg bottlenecks) and molecular clocks. Population dynamics.
Presumably all of astronomy and cosmology would have to go - except those bits dealing with what we can see today - which takes out most of big physics.
The physics side is interesting because presumably it would have knock on effects into technologies. It would be interesting to think of technologies that couldn't work if the earth was only 6,000 old.
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

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Message 18 of 18 (680368)
11-19-2012 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by herebedragons
11-19-2012 8:54 AM


I assume that by "if the YEC world view is right" you mean that you come to this conclusion by some type of divine revelation not by science, right? Because if by science ... then it all must still work. So your question is: If we were to find out that the YEC position is in fact correct, what parts of science would we have to abandon because it is untenable?
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*** Maybe a better question is: What assumptions would we need to abandon if YEC were correct? I would be interested to see some responses to that question.
No, that's not the way I'm trying to ask the question. It's obvious that YECs are wrong - I mean, totally barking, wrong. What I'm trying to show is that for them to be right it would mean that science was so wrong that their toaster couldn't work - or some such.
More likely sat navs wouldn't work because they rely on special relativity remain correctly geo-positioned.

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