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xongsmith
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Message 21 of 46 (686849)
01-04-2013 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nwr
12-28-2012 11:10 AM


nwr writes:
If the alternative were to live on wild berries and roots, and the wild animals that we could catch, then the planet could only support a tiny fraction of its current human population.
This is already true. There are already way too many people on the planet. Even 1 billion is too many.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 28 of 46 (687259)
01-08-2013 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Genomicus
01-08-2013 11:37 AM


Genomicus writes:
Yes, I think we would all prefer a reduction in birth rates over mass slaughter. But these are not the only choices, are they? The space frontier has incredible potential, so instead of trying to stem human growth (after all, from an evolutionary perspective, the more replicators we have, the better), why not colonize space?
Problem is that population increases GEOMETRICALLY. Even the exploration and colonization of space is basically a change from close to a 2-dimensional world (the surface of the earth) to a 3-dimensional world (surfaces of terraformed planets and lots and lots of space station artificial worlds). Sure - it would relieve much today. But over the long haul (say billions & billions & billions of years, told in a Carl Sagan voice), eventually the fuck-like-bunnies behavior will run into a problem again. Perhaps the recent findings that the universe is increasing it's rate of expansion may assuage this. I dunno.
The argument for colonizing space is so that an earth-destroying asteroid won't wipe us out. Apropos that point, set your calendars for February 15th when a sizeable asteroid comes inside of the geosynchronous satellite belt, visible over the Atlantic ocean's geosync dish reception, rising from the south and rapidly moving off to the north, dipping under 7th magnitude at the peak.
Here is a quote from the site here:
On February 15, 2013, the asteroid will travel rapidly from the southern evening sky into the northern morning sky with its closest Earth approach occurring about 19:26 UTC when it will achieve a magnitude of less than seven, which is somewhat fainter than naked eye visibility. About 4 minutes after its Earth close approach, there is a good chance it will pass into the Earth’s shadow for about 18 minutes or so before reappearing from the eclipse. When traveling rapidly into the northern morning sky, 2012 DA14 will quickly fade in brightness.
As Winston Churchill was believed to have said, "There is nothing as exhilarating as having been shot at and missed!"

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