How can we regulate guns ... ?

You have stretched the analogy too far.
Try viewing it as "You are allowed to go one place to buy a gun: America." No - you show your "document showing gun-ownership eligibility". I would prefer a more neutral body. Do America driving licences not have photos?
Are Americans concerned about cameras taking their souls?
I would mention passport photos...but passports aren't relevant to most Americans. I agree. He he

From a quick think: machine guns made pre-1986.
But I can look further, if one example is not enough.

Jon writes: LMAO. If it were even in the same ballpark of closeness....Don't you see? The NRA's image needs cleaning up. This is just for Gun Shows. They get to be in charge! They get more money (because the membership card will cost a wee bit more). They finally get to earn some respect across the aisle. And the transactions could be kept in their database to crosscheck when some nutjob goes haywire. They don't want any nutjobs either. They already promote gun safety and responsibility as much as they can. Here's another way they can help. The right-wingers who cling to their NRA membership would be on board with this - this is the NRA afterall, not some Nazi-Communist Black Man government edict they didn't have a chance to vote out. Put the NRA in charge of policing the Gun Shows this way. Criminals can't walk in & out so easy now.

Panda opines: The NRA card presents the most politically possible solution. Your speculation that there is a more neutral organization that would be acceptable for the very ones that we need to reach is probably Very Wrong. We need to save people, whenever possible. In order to keep it, you have to give it away. Let them have the power to control and police the gun sales at gun shows. Put it on their head. Give them the Responsibility they so admire. Remember when you're out there, trying to heal the sick, that you must always first forgive them.Vilifying them is like trying to blow the coat off the man with the harsh Wind instead of getting him to take it off with the warm Sun.

Never have?You are unaware of or have forgotten some of the history of this country. At one time registering to vote in many states required one or more of paying fees, submitting vouchers of good character, and passing literacy tests. It is only because those practices were implemented in abusive and exclusionary ways by the states that such practices were ended. But there is no per se constitutional provision against licensing provisions that are not discriminatory. Most of the provisions against "voter licensing" are statutory ones like the VRA.ABE:What about the not having a vagina test for voting that lasted through the early twentieth century? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : Added by edit.

Aside from guns, obviously.Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

Hi all,Have any of you ever been to a gun show and tried to buy a gun of any kind?I live in the state of Florida and have gone to many gun shows.There are no assualt guns sold at gun shows.What is an assault rifle?

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ASSAULT RIFLE FACT SHEET #1
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Recent discussions of so-called "assault rifles" in both the
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ASSAULT RIFLE: This term was coined during World War II. It is a
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full automatic fire. While some assault rifles
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SourceThere are specific things that must take place before you can purchase a gun from a licensed gun dealer. You will find no displays at a gun show by anyone other than a licensed gun dealer.

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No licensed gun dealer, manufacturer or importer shall sell or deliver any firearm to another person until he has obtained a completed form from the potential buyer or transferee and received approval from the Department of Law Enforcement by means of a toll-free telephone call.

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The Department of Law Enforcement shall destroy records of approval and non-approval within 48 hours after its response.

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Exempt from the instant check are licensed dealers, manufacturers, importers, collectors, persons with a concealed carrying license, law enforcement, correctional and correctional probation officers.

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SourceYou can find a copy of the ATF form 4473 that must be filled out before a licensed dealer can transfer a gun to your posession.If you read the form you will notice that you have to have a picture id and a background check preformed before the dealer can transfer a gun to your posession.You can find the form HereSo if you guys want to talk about gun control it would be best if you find out what is already required so you can speak from knowledge rather than ignorance.God Bless, Edited by ICANT, : No reason given.

Hi No, When did the first woman run for president of the United States?In the 19th century, Victoria Claflin Woodhull was the first woman to run for president in 1872.So what is the point in relation to purchasing a gun at a gun show from a licensed dealer?There are laws that must be followed to purchace and receive a gun from a licensed dealer.God Bless,

Certainly there are some.How about eagle feathers and other eagle parts. Dynamite and some other explosives. Some chemicals can be obtained legally with a DEA license. Buying refrigerant requires a license from the EPA.Lots of things require licenses to sell or to export. Other things require licenses to use. I have to be licensed to practice law.Where is this going, anyway?

Hi Percy,I just wanted to pop back in and let you know that I won't participate at EvC any further under these terms. I'll participate under the same rules as other participants - including the ability to refer to other participants directly or indirectly, provided those references aren't personal attacks, and the ability to object to behavior which is objectionable - or I won't participate at all.

Why is an example of certain guns needing you to register to buy not a good enough example of an existing product that you need to register to buy?It seems like a perfect example to address your statement:
"But purchasing things...? If the thing I'm selling isn't illegal to own, should the government have any input in my selling it to my friend or not?"Owning machine guns made pre-1986 is not illegal - you simply need to register with the government first.

NoNukes says: Yeah. And, see - all that shit was thrown out. This country has grown up some. I was channeling Chuck Yeager in his car part commercial...

And does what you describe apply to the other 49 states or just Florida?Because, although I see often gun advocates arguing that the gun show loop hole is not a problem - I never see them saying it doesn't exist.

Welcome back, dude.

Thank you for a real response.