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Message 3 of 46 (685969)
12-28-2012 11:10 AM
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12-28-2012 10:25 AM


But, does someone want to defend these guys?
I'm not interested in defending Monsanto. But I'm also not interested in attacking them.
There's a lot of hype coming from critics. I prefer to wait for actual evidence.
Almost all food is genetically modified, at least compared to what is/was available in the wild. If the alternative were to live on wild berries and roots, and the wild animals that we could catch, then the planet could only support a tiny fraction of its current human population.

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Message 10 of 46 (685988)
12-28-2012 1:11 PM
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12-28-2012 11:39 AM


Re: GM crops are a good thing
I really do think GM crops are a good thing and essential to the future of our food for the planet on the whole.
However, I also think they have potential to be abused and used in harmful ways in order to make a profit.
I agree on both points.
Overall, what is happening is a bit too far from my expertise, so I am mostly watching.
I do think that there are serious problems with patent laws and practices. Both gene patenting and software patenting need some sort of examination, review, and perhaps rethinking.

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Message 22 of 46 (686850)
01-04-2013 3:45 PM
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01-04-2013 3:40 PM


There are already way too many people on the planet. Even 1 billion is too many.
I agree with that.
If we could cut the world's population to 1 billion or less, that would solve many of the problems of pollution and global warming.
I would want to see this done gradually, by reducing birth rates, rather than with a program of mass slaughter.
Unfortunately, most politicians are unwilling to even discuss this issue.

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Message 27 of 46 (687255)
01-08-2013 9:06 PM
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01-08-2013 11:37 AM


..., why not colonize space?
I don't have any problem with that. However, it will be very difficult and very expensive. I don't see it happening in time to relieve the pressures of increasing population.

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