Hi Chuck77, thanks.
Like I said, ID needs to start over. Pos
That's basically what I am arguing, that it needs to start over on a stand-alone basis, rather than rely on (carry the baggage of) "creation science" -- and take the concept to the logical conclusion. To embrace ID fully, one needs to discard all preconceptions of
who\what the designer is, and pursue it as an hypothesis:
if god/s created the universe, then what should we see that shows this creation process?
To pursue this question properly, imho, all sciences would be brought to bear on the question, we can't pick and choose which sciences we like and which we don't like, as science is tested by reality (or what we perceive as reality).
Science is a tool for pursuing the philosophical question, and it is a philosophical (hypothetical) question until there is some objective empirical evidence that god/s {do\do-not} exist.
The problem is that we only have one universe to use as evidence -- is this what a designed universe should look like or is this what a non-designed universe should look like?
... but having an already established faith(for some) can lead one to be a proponent of ID. Maybe it should be classified differently. Faith can "take" you there atleast, ...
If you rely on faith, or on assuming that the premise "
god/s exist" is true, then it cannot be science, though science can be used to pursue the questions raised. To do this, though, one needs to be prepared to discard preconceptions based on faith and belief, or the science does not work.
Maybe ID will be able to develop itself in the future more so, according to the process Science demands. ...
My personal opinion, is that an open-minded skeptical approach to science used to investigate questions raised by the ID hypothesis (above) will lead people of faith to a better understanding and appreciation of what science does.
Science is a tool to help us understand reality (or what we perceive as reality) and it allows us to test our beliefs\hypothesis against the objective empirical evidence of that reality so that false ideas\concepts can be identified and discarded.
Each falsified concept brings us to a closer approximation of reality by eliminating false beliefs.
Enjoy.
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