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02-27-2013 6:21 PM


What I would like to do in this thread is test the concept of baramins using genetic comparisons. I would also like to use humans and the great apes (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, and orangutans) as our two model baramins. What I plan to show is that the baramin model makes predictions that are falsified by the actual genome data while the evolutionary model makes accurate predictions.
I am defining a baramin as a complete set of descendants that share a common ancestral gene pool.
To this end, I need creationists to give us a model to work with. From my understanding, this is what the current baramin model looks like. We have the great apes in one baramin, an they share a single common ancestor. We also have humans who also share a common ancestor, but not the same ancestor as that shared by the great apes.
Is this correct?
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Only moderators and yourself can post to this thread, so if anyone wants to answer your question they're going to have to send you a PM.
Could you add a definition of baramin?

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Definition of baramin added to opening post.
Added by edit: I am also asking creationists/IDer's to establish which species are in which baramin so that the goal posts do not get changed later on in the discussion. This is a very important requirement for this thread, IMHO. I have offered one possible scenario where the great apes are in one baramin and humans are in another. If there is agreement, or tacit agreement over a long period of time, then I can move on to how we can test these relationships using genetic comparisons.
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