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Author Topic:   All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam
kofh2u
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Message 103 of 118 (693590)
03-18-2013 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Taq
03-28-2011 6:59 PM


All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam
Yes, and that comon Ancestor was some first "Adam," if you will, who by an Act-of-God chemically mutated in the womb of a surrogate mother Ape with 24 chromosomes wherein two fused together, forming a new species.
That initial evolution by a spontaneous generato=ion of a parentless Human evolved further by 22 "steps" from one new species of man to the net until 40,000 years ago Modern man appeared.
At the very time in the evolutionary process, modern man 'flooded" out-of-Africa and spread over all the world, even covering the highest mountain tops.
At the same time, every other member of Hominoid went extinct, dying out forever along with their previously dominant world view and visions of the aniimal world they had conceived and named.

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kofh2u
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Message 106 of 118 (694893)
03-30-2013 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Admin
03-18-2013 2:20 PM


Re: All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam
Hey, Mr Percy, is there a superior to whom I might appeal your obvious erroneous and consistent objection to things I post?
You conplaint here shows you are a hypocritical moderator unable to fairly appraise the objectivity of what i post, and are bias as illustrated here, wherein I posted, above, a recent Science publication that supports the religious position that all humans today have one common ancestor they call Adam?
After all the Thread Opening Post Title is "All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam."

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kofh2u
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Message 107 of 118 (694894)
03-30-2013 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Europa
02-25-2011 2:56 AM


... tell this Percy...
I may be wrong but my understanding of evolution does not contradict the statement: "All human beings are descendants of Adam."
I shall explain why.
Evolutionists state that we are descendants of an ape-like ancestor. To further strengthen this, they claim that the chimps and human beings share a common ancestor. I will not go into the details of explicit calims like the DNA of human beings are 99 percent similar to that of the chimps. But I am not saying that any of this is wrong.
Having said that, we also have done some tests, because of which we have found out that the existing population of the world are all decendants of a single human being -- the Mitochondrial Eve (ME). I am not saying that the ME is the real Eve (of the Bible). Nor am I denying that at this point. I just do not know.
The common explanation of the ME is that the human population faced a bottleneck sometime in the past. And it is because of this bottle-necking that we have the ME. That is fine. I do not disagree with this either.
What I am saying is that because we have something (or should I say someone?) like the ME, the statement: 'All human beings are descendants of Adam' is not false. Coming to think of it, it would be so difficult to argue in support of my statement if we do not have the ME.
Now, many will not agree with my statement. But that is a different issue for i am not arguing to prove my statement. Nevertheless, evolution does not contradict my statement.
Am I wrong?
I would like some insight into this and will appreciate all answers.
Thanks.
Edited by AdminPD, 02-25-2011 5:54 AM: Title Change
ABSOLUTELY WHAT I STATED ABOVE.
I produced a text by well known and resected Paleontologists, and showed a one-to-one correspondence with the genealogy in Genesis and the 22 now extict humans in the line of human acent.
But, Percy wants to censor any objective and concrete point that opposes his bible bashing standards.
The Adminstrator who approved this thread needs to step in and censor the bible believers like me, or Mr Percy, IMHO.
Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

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kofh2u
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Message 111 of 118 (705217)
08-24-2013 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Admin
03-30-2013 2:31 PM


Re: All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam
In regard to "Re: All Human Beings Are Descendants of Adam" can I say that there is the latest book available from paleontologists who list 22 now extinct species from Adam to through the initial three racial stocks which have now differentiated into seven different races?
Can I tell people here that genetic evidence that supports an Act-of-God by which the mutation inside the womb of a surrogate Ape mother with 24 Chromosome were fused together, by which the first "Adam" with only 23 Chromosomes suddenly appeared on earth 7 million year ago?
Those things all seem relevant, science based, and supportive of the genealogy in Genesis.

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kofh2u
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Message 113 of 118 (705355)
08-26-2013 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by caffeine
08-26-2013 9:45 AM


Re: A very, very old Y-chromosome Adam.
A recent report in US NEWS magazine referred to this as Y-chromosomal Adam, but the scientist had less knowledge of Genesis than would have useful in connecting this to Noah, instead.
According to Genesis, Noah is responsible for the evolution of the appearance of three racial stocks, (Caucasian, Negroid, and mongoloid) from which the present seven genetic evidence races of today had differentiated.
According to the story, Noah, (assumed to be a species), sired these three hybrids when he was 500,000 years old.
The "flood" (out-of-Africa) took place 100,000 years After that event, and lasted for 40,000 years.
From this point of view, the numbers and the genetics fit quite well.
And, Mito-Eve would fit in as Mito-Noah's wife.

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kofh2u
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Message 115 of 118 (706193)
09-07-2013 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Coyote
03-30-2013 1:51 PM


Re: ... tell this Percy...
I produced a text by well known and resected Paleontologists, and showed a one-to-one correspondence with the genealogy in Genesis and the 22 now extict humans in the line of human acent.
And numerous posters have shown that your "one-to-one correspondence" is absolutely wrong.
But in spite of this, you keep repeating your same erroneous claims.
You're not debating, you're preaching! And you're doing it in the Science Forum.
LOL
Whether you say its wrong or not, I sources the "well known and respected paleontologists" who published the most recent book on the matter, the VERY title of which screams out the it lists the "Now 22 extinct species of humans."
Does this even matter to you?

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kofh2u
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From: phila., PA
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Message 116 of 118 (706194)
09-07-2013 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by caffeine
08-27-2013 4:02 AM


Re: A very, very old Y-chromosome Adam.
kofh2u:
A recent report in US NEWS magazine referred to this as Y-chromosomal Adam, but the scientist had less knowledge of Genesis than would have useful in connecting this to Noah, instead.
caffine:
Knowledge of Genesis would have served no use, since this has nothing to do with the Bible. The name 'Adam' was inspired by the Bible because of the Bible's huge literary influence on our culture.
That is exactly WHY I suggest that they should have referred to the name 'Noah' since this would be consistent with the date of the Flood and the appearance of this common ancestor.
That Adam was inspired by the Bible because of the Bible's huge literary influence on our culture is hardly the point when the Noah correlation makes more sense here.

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