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Ossat
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Message 247 of 262 (696109)
04-12-2013 5:14 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by New Cat's Eye
04-05-2013 11:04 AM


I don't have the same genotype as my parents, I got some of my genes from each of them. And the process that replicates DNA is imperfect, so the copies that are made are not going to be exact, so my DNA couldn't be the same anyway. The phenotypic variety that we see comes from changes to the genotypes. The changes to the genotype that come from replication errors are spontaneous. And that means they are unplanned.
So some of the variety we see is certainly not planned.
You do have the same genetic information that your parents in which they and you have all necessary information required to make a human. If was so in the past and will be in the future, regardless of that variety you mention. any variation will never account to make something different than a human
I agree, some of the variety is not planned, but like I said, not cumulative changes will ever create new species, nor they have done in the past, as evolutionists think

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Ossat
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Message 249 of 262 (696111)
04-12-2013 5:43 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Tangle
04-05-2013 11:09 AM


Re: Abiogenesis is not the theory of evolution
It sometimes takes a while for new people here to realise that they have to be quite careful about what they say, because we're an argumentative bunch and will pick at things that aren't accurate.
It's annoying but necessary to get your arguments organised because at the moment you're saying a number of things that will make umpteen people want to jump on you for an easy kill
I honestly thank you and appreciate your advice. But I like argumentation too and am happy to read and reply those post that arise from thinks that are considered to be inaccurate. I have little experience participating in forums and English is not my first language, but is a good opportunity to learn to express opinions better, I’m not concerned about people trying to jump on me for an easy kill, I am more concerned about having a discussion on interesting topics
The way simple organisms developed into more complex ones is called evolution. The way the simple organisms got here in the first place is a totally different issue. [That is an inexact statement which would ordinarily get me criticised but it'll do for now.]
The reason is that evolution happens regardless of how first life started. You can accept evolution and deny abiogenesis (the idea that life started here from chemical beginnings.) God could have planted life here, then buggered off to do something else. It could have come here from another planet by meteor or have been left here by aliens.
The two processes need to be separated in your mind - and your arguments
I see your point but still see them as interdependent theories and see evolution as based on a naturalistic view of origin of life. I know there are theologic evolutionist theories, but they aren’t accepted by mainstream scientists either, and if one believes something like that, still has to leave God out of the picture when dealing with science. If you deny evolution, abiogenesis/panspermia become helpless, no one would expect a mammal to appear from non-life. If you deny abiogenesis/panspermia, evolution loses its base. If a God could create life, why wouldn’t create it in all its variety, like we see in the world?
The other thing to be wary of is that many things that "are hard to get your head around" are also true. Like my wife and quantum mechanics
Evolution is perfectly understood and accepted or rejected by many. God on the other hand, is far beyond what any human can possibly understand

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