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Message 119 of 152 (696933)
04-19-2013 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Dr Adequate
04-19-2013 2:31 PM


Costs Of Terrorism To Us
On the other hand, we are showing these people that "we"...the majority of us...are unified and will voluntarily unite and do whatever it takes to expose "one of these things is not like the others..."
however what would our society do if we had ten times as many incidents? We couldn't afford to do what is being done in Boston every single time.

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Message 120 of 152 (696934)
04-19-2013 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by hooah212002
04-19-2013 3:23 PM


Re: Lock down
What does this have to do with the current state of affairs in MA?
I know, i know...you seem to be defending the right of other cultures to not be labeled as "them" by us. My point is that "us" can be them too if they would only cooperate and not go against our culture and way of life.

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Message 122 of 152 (696942)
04-19-2013 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by hooah212002
04-19-2013 3:37 PM


Re: Lock down
Phat writes:
My point is that "us" can be them too if they would only cooperate and not go against our culture and way of life.
hooah writes:
Can you clarify this?
Yes. WE=all sane and ratinal people who seek to do no harm to others and who just want to be able to freely enjoy baseball, marathons and hockey games without being in a war.
THEY= individuals who, for whatever reason, seek to involve us(WE) in a war or who simply desire to kill or maim us to inflict terror or harm
Jar may think that these people may in fact be sane, but my opinion is that anyone who seeks to harm anoher human is not sane.

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Phat
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Message 142 of 152 (697010)
04-20-2013 11:36 AM


Facebook Musings
I took a page from the jar handbook on social introspection.
Phats Facebook
This is what I posted:
quote:
Now that this whole tragedy in Boston is winding down, I can only say this: Using critical thinking, I dismiss all of the "Alex Jones/Info Wars" rumors of a government conspiracy...they didnt blow up the World Trade Center either... but the United States could do better in regards to being an aggressive global Empire that preserves the interests of the wealthy at the expense of the poor of the world. In addition, as a Christian, I believe that humanity is in the midst of a centuries long Spiritual War and that as the population of the earth becomes enlightened and educated, this war is only going to intensify. And its not a physical nor a military/FBI/Police issue...it is a Jesus issue and humanity groans for our Savior...our lost communion with God...our Blessed Hope.
Now I know you critics will gnash your teeth at my religious outlook, and to be fair...this was quoted from one of the news articles on the Boston suspects:
Associated Press writes:
The older brother had strong political views about the United States, said Albrecht Ammon, 18, a downstairs-apartment neighbor in Cambridge. Ammon quoted Tsarnaev as saying that the U.S. uses the Bible as "an excuse for invading other countries."
thus it could be argued that religion itself is a cause of many of these conflicts, though I would say that the abuse and manipulation of religion is the real issue. To love and believe in Jesus is of itself not problematic.

  
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Message 148 of 152 (697421)
04-25-2013 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by jar
04-17-2013 11:12 AM


National Opinion slowly forms...
jar writes:
If we are smart, maybe possibly even wise though, we should look at and understand what motivated them and see if we shouldn't change our behavior.
The Meaning Of Boston: Depends On Your Angle, Literally
James Carafano of the conservative Heritage Foundation writes:
"Clearly, on almost every aspect of this, all the facts aren't in...To draw broad public policy conclusions based on this when we don't have all the facts is not the best way to serve the public interest....It's difficult to make law by anecdote... It's difficult to use one case to make a trend, or to use one case to create a trend.
quote:
We thought, however, it would be interesting to take a quick look at just what's been out there since the attack, how interest groups and partisans have attempted to use the Boston bombings to further a cause or make a political point. Here's just a flavor of what has unfolded
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg writes:
... we live in a complex world where you're going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.
It(these attacks/events) will help Vladimir Putin remove the last vestiges of democracy and free press from his totalitarian Russia without a peep from the U.S.
Carafano writes:
... come next week Boston will fade as a point of argument in the immigration debate, at least."Americans are not too excited about people playing politics with tragedy."
Perhaps terrorism achieves the goal of confusin political and social agendas, but it seems to me that it also unifies nationalism....something unwise for a foreign enemy to do. Unless of course the strategy is to cause us to overreact and bankrupt our system.

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Message 152 of 152 (697441)
04-25-2013 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by NoNukes
04-25-2013 9:42 AM


Re: Enemy combatants
Sure hooah212002. I'm an idiot, but you are just wrong.
Edited by Phat, : added grin

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