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onifre
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Message 18 of 62 (700862)
06-08-2013 11:59 AM
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06-07-2013 11:23 PM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
But atheists? For centuries? Where are you getting this?
Ever heard of Galileo?
- Oni

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onifre
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Message 22 of 62 (700916)
06-09-2013 12:33 PM
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06-08-2013 3:01 PM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
Galileo was a Catholic IIRC.
So was I, once... and still claim to be sometimes in certain company. You have to keep appearances at times.
- Oni
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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onifre
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Message 24 of 62 (700930)
06-09-2013 7:25 PM
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06-09-2013 5:35 PM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
You have evidence that a man being persecuted by the Catholic church, who was silenced and made to denounce his own scientific discoveries, claimed he was still a Catholic. Hmm, does that sound coerced enough?
Non-believers, pagans, Muslims, atheist, were always persecuted by the church. Some were raised, like for example Einstein, within a religion - or even Darwin - and never truly said "I don't believe anymore" but it's not to say they believed whole heartedly either. In Darwin's case, his wife, who he loved dearly, was very much religious, and from what I've read it would break her heart had he said he didn't believe anymore. Much as that is true for any number of people like Darwin or Einstein or Galileo who discovered certain truths about our world that the church disagreed with or went against their families faith.
We all have to keep appearances at times.
- Oni

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onifre
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Message 29 of 62 (701040)
06-10-2013 7:01 PM
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06-10-2013 6:37 PM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
plus some Jews
Some? About 6 million...
- Oni

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onifre
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Message 36 of 62 (701092)
06-11-2013 2:07 PM
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06-11-2013 1:10 AM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
but I thought we were talking about the persecutions by strictly religious entities
The effects of the churches prejudice against the jews culminated in hatred for them, with the Holocaust being an example of a horrible outcome due to anti-semitism.
If you believe the teachings of the church had no part in the attempt to eradicate the jews then you are not looking at the facts.
But I too have read the the RCC helped the Nazis locate jews in certain towns/cities.
- Oni

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