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xongsmith
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Message 1 of 46 (701370)
06-18-2013 12:52 AM


In a true & democratic society working to promote the advance of civilization there can be NO SUCH THING as TREASON. It is impossible to be treasonous - by it's own definition. The minute a government has classified anything as SECRET or even higher, it has lost it's moral foundation and deserves to die by what it would call treason. The only way is an open way. In order to keep it, you have to give it away. For those who would think this is leaving the door wide open to "treason", yes, this is patently true - BY DESIGN.
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- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 6 of 46 (701402)
06-18-2013 12:09 PM


Both Coyote & nwr bring up good points about the current USA situation. However, I was not talking about the lying & imperfect version of government the USA has.
FWIW, last year i made $12.38 in interest. That was all my income.
As usual, I have depended on the kindness of strangers.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 23 of 46 (701662)
06-23-2013 12:38 PM


Again - to go back to my OP, in this fantasy world I was thinking of, there would never be any War, so troop deployments would never happen. There would be no military secrets, because there would be no military. In this same fantasy world, medical secrets wouldn't be necessary, because it would be against the law to discriminate in any way on any medical conditions right out of the gate in then first place.
Yeah, some fantasy world.
I wont be holding my breath.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 25 of 46 (701679)
06-23-2013 9:01 PM
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06-23-2013 1:42 PM


NoNukes observes:
In your fantasy world, you would need to eliminate all human foibles and weaknesses.
Yup.
Exactly.

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Message 44 of 46 (701854)
06-27-2013 12:26 AM
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06-26-2013 11:51 PM


Jon replies to Rahvin:
Why, do you think, the general American approval rating for Congress is around 10%, yet the same corrupt idiots get voted back in, year after year?
Because more people answer the phone surveys than vote.
NO. It's because many more think that THEIR GUY is not one of the 90%.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 46 of 46 (701862)
06-27-2013 1:21 AM
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06-27-2013 1:01 AM


Rahvin replies:
Many are faced with the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. You might prefer the sandwich to the douche, but you're still not going to be particularly happy about it.
Well - okay, lets look at this umpteenth Senate special election that just happened here in Massachusetts. We did feel deeply, collectively, that we got burned by Scott Brown's winning. (BTW, this situation meant that the the Democrats only had 60 votes for 2 months, which happened to correspond with the heaviest back-n-forth horse trading that resulted in Obamacare - meaning that the Senate was too busy to consider various other issues that they got skewered later on for not being able to override filibustering.)
I drove 250 miles Tuesday to help, in my own small way, to make sure we didn't make that very same mistake again.
Am I happy about Markey? Not really. He has been better than Obama, but he is a career politician - i.e., a professional liar of good success. But he has taken a few positions (2 or 3) I approve of. Mainly, he has been a good member of his party for some 27 years against the challenger's 0 years at that level. I feel I reelected MORE OF THE SAME to prevent THINGS GETTING WORSE.
But it is also true that Markey has helped to funnel money our state's way, solidarity with Tip O'Neill et al, that may not have eventuated otherwise. So, yeah, "our guy".

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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