Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 63 (9162 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 916,353 Year: 3,610/9,624 Month: 481/974 Week: 94/276 Day: 22/23 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Introduction To Geology quiz
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 18 of 29 (702628)
07-10-2013 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Minnemooseus
07-09-2013 9:39 PM


Re: Black "granite"
... the granite counter tops in my kitchen are about as dark as it is possible to get. (i.e. jet black.)
I'm guessing there's an implied smiley in there, but if not I'll say "The manufacturer/seller/namer of your "granite" was using the term extremely loosely." I wonder if the material is even natural rock.
Here's the wiki picture of "Various granites":

This message is a reply to:
 Message 17 by Minnemooseus, posted 07-09-2013 9:39 PM Minnemooseus has seen this message but not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 22 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-10-2013 6:12 PM New Cat's Eye has replied

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


(1)
Message 19 of 29 (702629)
07-10-2013 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by PurpleYouko
07-09-2013 1:46 PM


9. Granites are coarse-grained and light in color.
I answered False to this on the grounds that the granite counter tops in my kitchen are about as dark as it is possible to get. (i.e. jet black.)
Some granites are light in color. Just because some others are dark doesn't make that a false statement.
Apples are red.
The existence of green apples doesn't make that statement false.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 16 by PurpleYouko, posted 07-09-2013 1:46 PM PurpleYouko has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 20 by PurpleYouko, posted 07-10-2013 4:53 PM New Cat's Eye has replied

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


(1)
Message 21 of 29 (702667)
07-10-2013 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by PurpleYouko
07-10-2013 4:53 PM


Actually I beg to differ on that.
The statement "Apples are red" implies ALL apples are red.
If you wanted to say that some apples are not red then you would need to include the word some into your statement otherwise the existence of green apples does make the statement false.
Nah, I don't think the all is implied. If you wanted to say that, then you'd need to include the all as: All apples are red.
I mean, cars are red. Cars are white. Cars are black. None of those statements are false.
As it sits, if you claim the statement "apples are red" is false, then what you are saying is that apples are not red, and that's just wrong, cause some of them are.
Or at the very least completely meaningless.
Not meaningless... ambiguous.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 20 by PurpleYouko, posted 07-10-2013 4:53 PM PurpleYouko has not replied

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 24 of 29 (702744)
07-11-2013 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Dr Adequate
07-10-2013 6:12 PM


Re: Black "granite"
It seems like splitting hairs to me (granted this is about a Geology quiz so its warranted)
Is it just the particular mineral compositions that make one intrusive igneous rock deserving of the name, but another intrusive igneous rock not?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 22 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-10-2013 6:12 PM Dr Adequate has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 27 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-11-2013 9:54 PM New Cat's Eye has replied

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 26 of 29 (702820)
07-11-2013 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by ringo
07-11-2013 12:37 PM


Re: Black "granite"
Dr Adequate writes:
But black "granite" isn't granite. It's gabbro or diorite or something.
If George advertises gabbro countertops and Jim advertises diorite countertops, who goes out of business first?
George, because gabbro sounds silly and diorite at least sounds like rock.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 25 by ringo, posted 07-11-2013 12:37 PM ringo has seen this message but not replied

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 28 of 29 (702885)
07-12-2013 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Dr Adequate
07-11-2013 9:54 PM


Re: Black "granite"
It seems like splitting hairs to me (granted this is about a Geology quiz so its warranted)
Is it just the particular mineral compositions that make one intrusive igneous rock deserving of the name, but another intrusive igneous rock not?
Odd use of the word "just". How would you like to classify intrusive igneous rocks except by what they're made of?
I was asking out of ignorance to see if there was anything more to it than that. For example, when classifying metals you can have two differnt types of steel even though they have the same composition. Martensite is quenched austenite which results in a different crystalline structure of the same composition. For polymers, HDPE is still just polyethylene but its heavily cross linked and has a much higher density. So you could use properties of the material in addition to its composition.
They don't really have any other qualities, do they?
Density... hardness... crystalline structure... melting temp... Color... Aesthetics... usefulness as a counter-top. I didn't know if any other things were taken into account or not.
Apparently the answer is "no".

This message is a reply to:
 Message 27 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-11-2013 9:54 PM Dr Adequate has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 29 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-12-2013 9:06 PM New Cat's Eye has seen this message but not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024