Is God one or three?

EliyahuGood research.I am not a Muslim but I like this ones take on the Trinity.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VsN3IG1HtQThis following is also good research.Originally Posted by animefan48
Well, the reality is most Christians do buy into the trinity doctrine because of persecution of the early Gnostics and non-Trinitarians, and the religious councils were dissenters were forced to agree to a Trinitarian theology. Many Unitarian and Universalist theologies argue that when Jesus said he was the way, he meant that he was an example of how to live to be united/reunited with God. As for the name, God does give other names for himself including the Alpha and Omega, as well as some believe a name that should not be written (or even spoken I believe). Honestly, I think using the name I Am That I Am would just be confusing and convoluted, seriously. I seriously do not believe that it is a continuation of Gnostic/mystical/Unitarian suppression. Even the Gnostic and mystical traditions within Islam and Christianity do not tend to use that name, and among the 99 Names of Allah, I did not find that one. Also, many Rastafarians believe that the Holy Spirit lives in humans and will sometimes say I and I instead of we, yet they don't seem to use the name I Am for God/Jah either, so I really don't think it can be related to suppressing mystical and Gnostic interpretations. I think that originally oppressing those ideas and decreeing them heretical are quite enough, the early Church did such a good job that after the split many Protestant groups continued to condemn mystical and later Gnostic sects and theologies.Yup, the bishops voted and it was settled for all time!!1 (Some say the preliminary votes were 150 something to 140 something in favor of the trinity)But then Constantine stepped in: After a prolonged and inconclusive debate, the impatient Constantine intervened to force an end to the conflict by demanding the adoption of the creed. The vote was taken under threat of exile for any who did not support the decision favored by Constantine. (And later, they fully endorsed the trinity idea when it all happened again at the council of Constantinople in AD 381, where only Trinitarians were invited to attend. Surprise! They also managed to carry a vote in favor of the Trinity.)http://home.pacific.net.au/~amaxwell/bdigest/bd12bbs.txEven a Trinitarian scholar admits the Earliest & Original beliefs were NOT Trinitarian!The trinity formulation is a later corruption away from the earliest & original beliefs!"It must be admitted by everyone who has the rudiments of an historical sense that the doctrine of the Trinity, as a doctrine, formed no part of the original message. St Paul knew it not, and would have been unable to understand the meaning of the terms used in the theological formula on which the Church ultimately agreed".
Dr. W R Matthews, Dean of St Paul's Cathedral, "God in Christian Thought and Experience", p.180"In order to understand the doctrine of the Trinity it is necessary to understand that the doctrine is a development, and why it developed. ... It is a waste of time to attempt to read Trinitarian doctrine directly off the pages of the New Testament".
R Hanson: "Reasonable Belief, A survey of the Christian Faith, p.171-173, 1980The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament.
New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306."The formulation ‘One God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.... Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective"
New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 14, p. 299."The formulation ‘One God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.... Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 14, p. 299)."Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary a deviation from this teaching" (The Encyclopedia Americana, p. 1956, p. 2941).Was Jesus God to Paul and other early Christians? No. . . . .
(Source: How the Bible became the Bible by Donald L. O'Dell - ISBN 0-7414-2993-4 Published by INFINITY Publishing.com)Constantine’s Victory Arch says it all.http://www.simchajtv.com/...hristianity-selling-christianityRegards
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C S"And yet in Genesis, God talks about thing being made "in OUR image" and "they will be like one of US"So that's proof that God is more than one."Are we more than one?
If in God's image we must be. Right?Are you a Father, Son and Holy spirit?Would the father in you also have the son murdered or would your father part have the balls that your cowardly God did not have?Who would you send to die? You or your child?Regards
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C S"Would the father in you also have the son murdered or would your father part have the balls that your cowardly God did not have?
Who would you send to die? You or your child?According to the story, God sent himself as his son.===================================I did not ask about the story.Please answer my question.Regards
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JarDeflecting is not dealing with the question but you have shown your fatherly love, or lack of, for your own child. You would put yourself and your needs above his or her.That bodes ill for your morals.Regards
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If God had three heads, they would all have the same information.Only the father knows the time of the end. Jesus said that. He could not then be equal.The Holy spirit is also not equal as we can curse the other two heads and be forgiven but not if we curse the Holy spirit.Regards
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C SIf you do not want to be ignored then go and answer my rather simple questions or we are done here as we have nowhere to go.Regards
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C SYou answered nothing and like most Christians ran from a moral question showing that your are as corrupt as the average Christian.Blame me all you want though. Hypocrites always ends that way.Regards
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One or three or is it four.A question for all.It involves consciousness which is the true measure of individuality.If God is one then he would only have one consciousness. Monotheist GodIf God has more than one consciousness then he cannot be a Monotheist God.We have four (title) to work with.Father, son, holy spirit and Jesus.I named 4 (titles).How many consciousness are there in those 4 (entities).Did Jesus have his own or was that God’s just riding a disposable mue body? So to speak.Regards
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You did not notice we were on the same page.Regards
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