Oh the lovely Jehovah always was three
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But you don't deny that God is one???
No, the Son cried out to the Father, and the Man cried out to God. This is Jesus speaking the words of Psalm 22:1, a messianic psalm describing what He has come to suffer. He was forsaken by the Father for our sins which He bore in His body, the sins we deserve to be punished for, but He took the punishment upon Himself, which of course means He was being forsaken in our place -- WE deserve to be forsaken by God and Jesus had to endure it to pay for our sins; and it was very hard for Him to bear, to be forsaken by the Father with whom He had always had intimate fellowship.
Let me spell this out for you: You have at least two, or three, persons, who are all divine.
A divine person is a god. Having three divine persons = having three gods.
You try to get around that problem by saying 1 + 1 + 1 = 1.
But worshipping a whole divine family is polytheism = IDOLATRY!!
And Psalm 22 is just the so maniest Christian falsification of their Bible translations:
Psalm 22
To begin with; the Psalms are not prophetic writings. Also Psalm 22 does not claim to prophesize about the messiah. It is nowhere written: The messiah will come and he will call out during his execution: My God, my God, why did you forsake me? This is king David speaking about himself. This Psalm is written mainly in the past tense, and describes the tribulations King David went through. But, as shown before, the authentic messianic prophecies are NOT fulfilled by Jesus, and therefore Christianity has to resort to Biblical texts that have no bearing on the messiah whatsoever, and present them as messianic prophecies. Because of the fact that, according the NT, Jesus quoted Psalms during his execution, the Christians claim that this Psalm must be a prophecy about the messiah. An upside down proof based upon nothing. And even that is not enough. In order to make it a little more authentic Christianity squeezed in the infamous falsification about the piercing of hand and feet. See verse 16: Yea, dogs are round about me; a company of evildoers encircle me; they have pierced my hands and feet. They say: Look! Here is the crucifixion, prophesized in the Psalms!
Point one: It is not written here that that the hands and feet of the messiah would be pierced. Like I pointed out: King David speaks here about himself, and that in the past tense. And on top of that: there is no such a thing as they pierced my hand an feet. The Hebrew word that is here translated as 'pierced' is 'ka'arie'. There is no word that even comes close to ka'arie that means piercing. To call this a mistranslation is too euphemistic, we should call this just what it is; another Christian falsification of their Bible translations, in order to squeeze in JC. The word that comes the closest is 'karah', but it is impossible to fit that in here, because that would violate almost every rule in the Hebrew grammar. And besides that, karah does not mean piercing, but 'to dig up, to bring up from the ground' (in the sense of mining)
The Hebrew prefix 'ka' means: 'as the', and the Hebrew word 'arie' means 'lion'. So what it says here is: "Like the lion [they are at] my hands and feet." The text between the square brackets is my insertion. So King David, who is not prophesizing about the messiah here, is speaking about a lion, and not about piercing hands and feet. The same lion he speaks about in verse 13 and 21.
Also the modern day Bible translations translate this in the wrong way. I could find only one Christian Bible translation who translates this verse in the right way, and that is the translation of the Y-H-V-H witnesses. But at least the modern Bible translations have the decency to write that there is no such thing in the Hebrew text.
My edition of the Revised Standard Version has a footnote with the word pierced in verse 16, it says there: "Gk Syr Jerome: Heb like a lion" That means that the translators get the word pierced from the ancient Greek translation; the Septuaginth, and from the Syriac translation, and from the Vulgata, the Catholic translation of the Bible into Latin, made by Jerome, on the request of Pope Damascus, in 328 CE. But this: Heb like a lion means that they admit that in the Hebrew is written: Like a lion.
Here is the footnote of the New American Standard Bible Update (1995): "Another reading is like a lion, my..."
And here is the footnote of the New International Version: "Some Hebrew manuscripts, Septuagint and Syriac; most Hebrew manuscripts: 'like the lion,"
What the Bible translators are doing here is ignoring the original Hebrew Bible, and translating translations instead, because that fits the Christian theology better.
But the exact same word "ka'arie" is used in Isaiah 38:13. This claim can be checked out by people who cannot read Hebrew, by means of the Christian Hebrew-English interlinear, that is a Hebrew text of the Tanach, (OT), with under each word an English translation. Provided by a Christian institution. Look here:
Online Hebrew Interlinear Bible and look there how it is translated there. It is possible to zoom into the text.
On the right side of the Hebrew text is a normal English translation. Now look at the discrepancy between how the Hebrew is translated right underneath, and how it is translated in the text on the right side. VERY educational!
And look here how the English translations translate the word "ka'arie" in Isaiah 38:11;
New International Version I waited patiently till dawn, but like a lion he broke all my bones;
ew American Standard Bible: I composed my soul until morning. Like a lion--so He breaks all my bones,
The Message: I cry for help until morning. Like a lion, God pummels and pounds me,
Amplified Bible: I thought and quieted myself until morning. Like a lion He breaks all my bones;
New Living Translation: I waited patiently all night, but I was torn apart as though by lions.
King James Version: I reckoned till morning, that, as a lion, so will he break all my bones:
English Standard Version: I calmed myself until morning; like a lion he breaks all my bones;
Contemporary English Version: Until morning came, I thought you would crush my bones just like a hungry lion;
New King James Version: I have considered until morning-- Like a lion, So He breaks all my bones;
New Century Version: "I waited patiently till dawn, but like a lion he broke all my bones"
21st Century King James Version: I reckoned till morning that, as a lion, so will He break all my bones;
American Standard Version: I quieted myself until morning; as a lion, so he breaketh all my bones:
Young's Literal Translation: I have set [Him] till morning as a lion, So doth He break all my bones,
Darby Translation: I kept still until the morning; ... as a lion, so doth he break all my bones.
Revised Standard version: I cry for help until morning; like a lion he breaks all my bones;
Another place where we see the word "ka'arie" is in Numbers 24:9. See here how it is there translated:
New International Version Like a lion they crouch and lie down"
New American Standard Bible: He crouches, he lies down as a lion"
The Message: Israel crouches like a lion and naps"
Amplified Bible: He couched, he lay down as a lion"
New Living Translation: Like a lion, Israel crouches and lies down"
King James Version: He couched, he lay down as a lion"
English Standard Version: He crouched, he lay down like a lion"
Contemporary English Version: Like a lion you lie down"
New King James Version: He bows down, he lies down as a lion"
New Century Version: Like a lion, they lie waiting to attack"
21th Century King James Version: "He couched, he lay down as a lion"
American Standard Version: He couched, he lay down as a lion"
Young's Literal Translation: He hath bent, he hath lain down as a lion"
Darby Translation: He stooped, he lay down like a lion"
Revised Standard version: He couched, he lay down like a lion"
Also in Ezechiel 22:25 we encounter the same word "ka'arie", followed by the word "sho'eig", which means "roaring".
See here how that is translated:Ezekiel 22:25 KJ21
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey.
Ezekiel 22:25 ASV
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey:
Ezekiel 22:25 AMP
There is a conspiracy of [Israel’s false] prophets in the midst of her, like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 CEB
The conspiracy of princes in her is like a roaring lion ripping up prey.
Ezekiel 22:25 CJB
There is a conspiracy of prophets in it like a roaring lion tearing up the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 CEV
Their leaders are like roaring lions, tearing apart their victims.
Ezekiel 22:25 DARBY
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst of her like a roaring lion ravening the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 DRA
There is a conspiracy of prophets in the midst thereof: like a lion that roareth and catcheth the prey,
Ezekiel 22:25 ERV
The prophets in Jerusalem are making evil plans. They are like a lionit roars when it begins to eat the animal it
caught.
Ezekiel 22:25 ESV
The conspiracy of her prophets in her midst is like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 ESVUK
The conspiracy of her prophets in her midst is like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 EXB
Like a roaring lion that tears the animal it has caught [its prey], Israel’s rulers [princes] make evil plans [conspire].
Ezekiel 22:25 GNV
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof like a roaring lion, ravening the prey:
Ezekiel 22:25 GW
Your princes are like roaring lions who tear their prey into pieces.
Ezekiel 22:25 GNT
The leaders are like lions roaring over the animals they have killed.
Ezekiel 22:25 HCSB
The conspiracy of her prophets within her is like a roaring lion tearing its prey:
Ezekiel 22:25 KJV
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 AKJV
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey;
Ezechiel 22: KNOX
What of the prophets? A sworn conspiracy; lions roaring for their prey, the lives of men;
Ezekiel 22:25 LEB
The conspiracy of its prophets in the midst of her is like a roaring lion that is tearing prey.
Ezekiel 22:2523- MSG
The leaders among you became desperate, like roaring, ravaging lions killing indiscriminately.
Ezekiel 22:25 NOG
Your princes are like roaring lions who tear their prey into pieces.
Ezekiel 22:25 NASB
There is a conspiracy of her prophets in her midst like a roaring lion tearing the prey.
Ezekiel 22:25 NCV
Like a roaring lion that tears the animal it has caught, Israel’s rulers make evil plans.
Ezekiel 22:25 NET
Her princes within her are like a roaring lion tearing its prey; they have devoured lives.
Ezekiel 22:25 NIRV
Ezekiel, the princes of the land are like a roaring lion that tears its food apart.
Ezekiel 22:25 NIV
There is a conspiracy of her princes within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NIVUK
There is a conspiracy of her princes within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NKJV
The conspiracy of her prophets in her midst is like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NLV
Israel’s false religious leaders are making plans within her. They are like a lion making noise over the food it has killed.
Ezekiel 22:25 NLT
Your princes plot conspiracies just as lions stalk their prey.
Ezekiel 22:25 NRSV
Its princes within it are like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NRSVA
Its princes within it are like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NRSVACE
Its princes within it are like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 NRSVCE
Its princes within it are like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Yechezkel 22: OJB
There is a kesher of her nevi’im in the midst thereof, like a roaring ari lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 RSV
Her princes in the midst of her are like a roaring lion tearing the prey; t
Ezekiel 22:25 RSVCE
Her princes in the midst of her are like a roaring lion tearing the prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 VOICE
Her prophets conspire in her midst like raging lions killing their prey;
Ezekiel 22:25 WEB
There is a conspiracy of her prophets within it, like a roaring lion ravening the prey:
Ezekiel 22:25 WYC
Swearing together, either conspiring, of prophets is in the midst thereof; as a lion roaring and taking prey like a lion roaring and taking prey,
Ezekiel 22:25 YLT
A conspiracy of its prophets [is] in its midst, as a roaring lion tearing prey;
So the translators know very well what "ka'arie" means. It is just that in Psalm 22 (almost) all the Christian Bible translators are collectively struck with blindness, and go astray.
But here we see what ka’arie means: As the lion, and, more important, we clearly see what is does NOT mean: "piercing".
So in Psalm 22 it does not speak about the final messiah, and not about a crucifixion, and the piercing in Psalm 22 is just another Christian falsification of their Bible translations.
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In the service of
Y-H-W-H,
Eliyahu, light unto the nations
"Hear Israel,
Y-H-W-H is our God,
Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of
Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5
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