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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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quote:Precincts Recounted: 89.64% (3702 of 4130) Last update was: 11/26/2008 8:00:03 PM Statewide Recount Results for US Senate Totals Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1046101 Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1042208 Recounted Data Totals Percent RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1044255 41.56 RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1040285 41.41 RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 423102 16.84 RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 2292 0.09 RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 2448 0.10 Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 86.04 % Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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quote:Precincts Recounted: 99.37% (4104 of 4130) Last update was: 12/4/2008 8:00:01 PM Statewide Recount Results for US Senate Totals Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1195885 Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1200533 Recounted Data Totals Percent RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1193307 41.33 RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1197965 41.49 RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 489577 16.96 RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 3197 0.11 RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 3311 0.11 Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 98.88% These were the pre-recount results (from message 24):
quote:Independence DEAN BARKLEY 437404 15.16 Republican NORM COLEMAN 1211590 41.99 Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1211375 41.98 Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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quote:Precincts Recounted: 99.98% (4129 of 4130) Last update was: 12/8/2008 8:00:01 PM Statewide Recount Results for US Senate Totals Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1210995 Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1210285 Recounted Data Totals Percent RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1208344 41.41 RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1207657 41.38 RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 495475 16.98 RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 3280 0.11 RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 3375 0.12 Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 99.93% These were the pre-recount results (from message 24):
quote:Independence DEAN BARKLEY 437404 15.16 Republican NORM COLEMAN 1211590 41.99 Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1211375 41.98 Moose Edited by Admin, : Reduce message width.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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quote:Precincts Recounted: 100.00% (4130 of 4130) Last update was: 12/12/2008 5:01:18 PM Statewide Recount Results for US Senate Totals Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1211590 Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1211375 Recounted Data Totals Percent RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1208935 41.40 RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1208747 41.39 RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 495920 16.98 RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 3278 0.11 RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 3377 0.12 Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 100.00% So, pending dealing with the ballot challenges, Norm leads Al by 188 votes. Again, the original election night totals (also listed above):
quote:Independence DEAN BARKLEY 437404 15.16 Republican NORM COLEMAN 1211590 41.99 Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1211375 41.98 A 215 vote gap. The two candidates have withdrawn quite a few (many hundreds) of those challenges, but they still are in the tally above. Incidentally, the "lizard people" ballot was for Franken, and was thrown out. There is a statute rule that a voter can't mark his/her ballot in a way that would make it distintive. Another ballot for Franken (or was there more than one?) had a number of write in votes for FSM and/or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That/those ballot(s) were accepted as being valid. Apparently the FSM is a valid write in, but "lizard people" is not. Perhaps "lizard person", being singular, would have been valid. Moose Edited by Admin, : Reduce message width.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Wikipedia has a pretty detailed article on the affair so far.
It is currently being heard by the Minnesota supreme court. After that an appeal to the US supreme court is a possibility, although I would hope they would refuse to take on the case. Minnemooseus Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) "Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
http://news.yahoo.com/...630/ap_on_el_se/us_minnesota_senate
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quote: Moose Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) "Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Nice speech, with the choicest part being:
quote:Source Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add "(on Judge Sotomayor's nomination)" part to subtitle.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Source quote: MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Found via Al Franken's final punchline | Salon.com which included:
quote: Which in turn was found via Al Franken exceeding expectations I'm not at all sure how much of the guitar playing is actually Davis and how much of the singing is actually Franken. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add quote.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Al Franken supports the NSA surveillance program against americans As best as I know, that is true (ABE - Make that an agreement if you strike that "against americans" from the sentence).
he voted AGAINST the Amash NSA Amendment (ends the indiscriminate collection of phone and email records) on Wednesday. I'm pretty sure that was a House of Representatives thing. Franken is in the Senate.
So laugh and deride all you want about Bachmann, because the last laugh is on us 99%ers. But Bachmann did vote against the amendment.
quote: Source I fully admit that I'm not real up on this whole situation. My main info and support for Al Franken and his position is largely based on this article, which is derived from this article. Video of Al's statement is available via either of these links. Quoting Al via the first article:
quote: Now I may be falling victim of authoritarianism, but sometimes you need to believe someone, and for me that is Al Franken. A follow up article of sorts at "Little Green Footballs" says:
quote: More at the source page. A little background on the "Little Green Footballs" blog: Charles Johnson was part of the conservative blogosphere until a few years ago (for whatever it's worth, see WSJ: Franken Stole the Election from back in 2009). And compare the nature of comments then vs the nature of the comments in the current articles. Anyway, Charles came to the conclusion, and I more or less accurately quote him - "The republican party has gone off the rails and is heading over the cliff, and I'm not going over the cliff with them". Although I'm sure that Charles is still pretty conservative, he has become a severe critic of the republican party, especially the right wing. Moose Final (maybe) added by edit: Concerning the FISA Accountability and Privacy Protection Act. As I understand it, it is assigned to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Patrick Leahy chairman. It needs to be approved by that committee to get to the full Senate. I note that both Minnesota senators, Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken, are on the committee. We shall see how things go. Monitor this paragraphs first link page to track things. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Very minor tweak. Edited by Minnemooseus, : ABE in my reply to the first quote (second line of this message). Edited by Minnemooseus, : ABE at message end.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
KTWH-LP is a low power station in Two Harbors, MN, that I am heavily involved in.
KTWH carries a show call "The Bookshow", and the Tuesday 09-05-17 guest is Al Franken and his fairly new book "Al Franken - Giant of the Senate". It's a 25 minute show, and starts at 12:05 pm U.S. central time. To calibrate for other time zones, that is about 14 hours and 15 minutes from this message's post time. KTWH 99.5 FM – Two Harbors Community Radio - Audio button at page top. KTWH 99.5 FM Two Harbors Community Radio - Should get you directly to the audio. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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I'm not going to take the time to collect links on the story. Others are certainly welcome to do such.
My bottom line opinion - Al's actions were stupid, probably inexcusable, but forgivable. Especially in regard to Congress and in politics in general, I think that Al's intelligence/knowledge to stupidly/ignorance ratio is pretty high. Moose Added by edit - A couple of links after all (Little Green Footballs): Sen. Al Franken Accused of Sexual Harassment While on USO Tour in 2006 - Little Green Footballs Washington Post Columnist: Al Franken Shouldn't Resign, and Here's Why - Little Green Footballs Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added 2 links.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Franken was a comedian at the time, and he was helping put on a show to a young and bawdy audience. Alas, I saw somewhere that the incident(s) happened in Dec. 2006. He announced his Senate candidacy in Feb. 2007. I don't know what psychosis Al was going through at the time. It really seems to be a case of loss of sanity. We shall see what further information comes out. But I'm not ready to advocate "ex-Senator Franken" yet. Regardless of how distasteful the incident(s) were, it yet seems like a very brief anomaly in what seems to be an otherwise fine Senate career. I certainly hope there is nothing further bad to come out. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I had a longer message that got lost to a computer malfunction. The shorter version:
I think the photo clearly is staged, maybe or maybe not with Tweeden's awake participation. The photo documented a variety of "bad taste humor" but does not document a groping. I find it implausible that Tweeden was sleeping in her full combat gear costume, but maybe she was. Per her other accusations - I do think that her other journalism work with Fox News, indeed her mere association with Fox News, is a serious negative towards her credibility. Maybe she is telling the truth, but would one find the statement "Fox News corespondent lies to make liberal politician look bad" implausable? Moose Added by edit: Photographer Said Franken Image Was Staged?
quote: quote: quote: quote: I think the quote source may indeed be false, but some variation of the "quote" content is still plausible. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Because Franken's hand was on her shoulder, and they had to hide the fingers ... Devils advocate mode: Of course, this might be a photoshopping by some left winger, to make it look like some right winger had photoshopped the image. The image was photoshopped to remove the fingers that were not actually in the original picture. It's part of the liberal coverup. Or something like that.
Franken is being "swiftboated" and maligned with false information, in an attempt to deflect news from Roy Moore child molester, pedophile and statutory rapist, and to provide false equivalence to gaslight people, especially voters in Alabama, into thinking it's ok to condone\vote for despicable Moore. Or to cripple Franken's efforts to oppose the right wing agenda, such as weakening net neutrality. Not to mention, Fox News sure must still be grumpy about that "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" book. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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