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Greatest I am
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Message 46 of 95 (704164)
08-05-2013 12:36 PM
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08-05-2013 10:23 AM


Re: Pretty clear GIA never read the Bible
Not to Christians.
They do not believe in Lilith.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 47 of 95 (704165)
08-05-2013 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Coyote
08-05-2013 10:49 AM


Re: Quote function
Don't try to do anything with the Peek screen.
Test.
Coyote
The above is what I end with instead of the quote box.
Any further suggestions my friend?
Regards
DL
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Message 48 of 95 (704166)
08-05-2013 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 12:39 PM


Re: Quote function
Yes, the bit of code at the end of the line needs a "/" in it, just before the "qs" then it will work fine.

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jar
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Message 49 of 95 (704167)
08-05-2013 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 12:36 PM


Re: Pretty clear GIA never read the Bible
I am a Christian. Lilith is irrelevant. The fact is that the their are two different and mutually exclusive stories, the on that runs from Gen 1:1 through Gen 2.4a and the story that is found in Gen2.4b through Gen4. Neither Adam or Eve appear in the Gen 1 myth.
It's pretty clear yet again that your posts are totally clueless about the Bible or Christianity.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 50 of 95 (704169)
08-05-2013 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 12:35 PM


Does sex have good and evil aspects?
Not necessarily. We've been over this already.

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Message 51 of 95 (704177)
08-05-2013 3:18 PM
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08-05-2013 12:35 PM


Of course it does.
Good sex is really really god. Bad sex is EVIL.

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Greatest I am
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Message 52 of 95 (704179)
08-05-2013 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Coyote
08-05-2013 12:49 PM


Re: Quote function
Yes, the bit of code at the end of the line needs a "/" in it, just before the "qs" then it will work fine.
Success except that it did not put your name anywhere but I do thank you much for getting me this far.
Regards
DL
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Message 53 of 95 (704181)
08-05-2013 3:53 PM
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08-05-2013 1:17 PM


Not necessarily. We've been over this already.
Your answer is a non-answer and you foolishly think it an answer.
If that is your idea of going over something, it is no wonder you think you have won a debate that never happened.
Is that the answer you would give your 12 year old daughter?
Sex is neither good or bad for your dear. Go get pregnant. Daddy does not necessarily think that evil or good.
Regards
DL

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Message 54 of 95 (704182)
08-05-2013 3:54 PM
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08-05-2013 3:18 PM


ramoss
Thanks for a clear and concise answer without the garbage that others are giving.
Regards
DL

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Message 55 of 95 (704183)
08-05-2013 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 3:43 PM


Re: Quote function
Greatest I am writes:
Success except that it did not put your name anywhere but I do thank you much for getting me this far.
put [qs=Coyote]

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 56 of 95 (704185)
08-05-2013 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 3:53 PM


Does sex have good and evil aspects?
Not necessarily. We've been over this already.
Your answer is a non-answer and you foolishly think it an answer.
But it is an answer, and you cannot explain why it isn't.
Is that the answer you would give your 12 year old daughter?
Sex is neither good or bad for your dear. Go get pregnant. Daddy does not necessarily think that evil or good.
Gawsh, I didn't think simple logic would escape you.
Just because sex is not necessarily good or bad does not mean that it cannot be good or bad.
Sex can be good and sex can be bad, but it isn't necessarily either one.
If that is your idea of going over something, it is no wonder you think you have won a debate that never happened.
Well, you're argument relies on the premise that sex is either good or bad. The fact that it isn't necessarily either one renders your premise false. So therefore your conclusion doesn't stand.
That means your argument has been defeated. Since all you can do is repeat your question and post insults, then its obvious that you have no further argument. So you lost.

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Message 57 of 95 (704189)
08-05-2013 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Greatest I am
07-30-2013 2:59 PM


in contrext
Sorry you do not enjoy sex
To me, sex is like blowing my nose. It feels good to get all that stuff out, but its not something I plan my day around.

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ringo
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Message 58 of 95 (704230)
08-06-2013 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Greatest I am
08-04-2013 11:20 PM


Greatest I am writes:
No contradiction?
You think girls are pigs!
No contradiction. There may be more than one wolf or, if there is only one, he may have varied eating habits.
There are discrepancies between the accounts in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 but your claim is not one of them. There's no reason to insist that God told Adam and Eve to procreate before giving them the means and/or motive to do so. The time line is not that distinct.

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Message 59 of 95 (704263)
08-07-2013 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Phat
08-05-2013 4:39 PM


Re: in contrext
To me, sex is like blowing my nose. It feels good to get all that stuff out, but its not something I plan my day around.
That sounds like masterbation.
Sex - as in bonding with another person and sharing in some good love making - is definitely something to plan a day (or week) around, bro.
Stop jerking it.
- Oni

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NoNukes
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Message 60 of 95 (704264)
08-07-2013 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 12:35 PM


Bad assumptions lead to bad conclusions
Does sex have good and evil aspects?
If so then A & E could not know of it as they knew nothing of anything that had good and evil aspects.
The above reasoning along with some of your other assumptions does indeed lead to the conclusion that some of God's actions in Genesis 1 and 2 were irrational.
You should at least consider that maybe it is your own assumptions that are irrational.
Your basic assumption here seems to be that the knowledge of sex is what Adam and Eve learned from eating of the forbidden tree. You are not the first person to suggest that. But the problem with it is that it leads to Genesis not being rational.
The truth is that sex does not have any evil aspects. None. Adultery is bad, sex with children is bad, but sex itself is not evil.
A car is not bad, but drinking and driving is bad, driving recklessly is bad, driving too fast for conditions is bad. The car itself has no evil aspects, yet you can do evil acts with a car. Or with a stick, or a bowl of jello.
It is simply not a Biblical conclusion that sex is evil.
As for your reasoning regarding a 12 year old daughter, that attempt at an argument is ridiculous on its face. Anyone who teaches a 12 year old that sex is evil is committing child abuse. I did not want my 12 year old son or daughter to have sex. But I didn't teach them that doing so would send them to Hell, as you seem to be suggesting I must do.
What do you think non-Christians tell their kids?
The idea that sex is evil is simply non Biblical. It is utterly incompatible with a commandment to be fruitful and multiply. Regardless of whether you believe or do not believe the Bible to be literally true, this particular argument in favor of the Bible being wrong is total crap. It is your interpretation of the Bible that is wrong.
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