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nwr
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Message 52 of 117 (705373)
08-26-2013 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Rahvin
08-26-2013 12:43 PM


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And you've given an example I can counter: I value knowledge and truth over happiness.
I'm not sure I understand this.
For me, seeking knowledge and truth are what make me happy.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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nwr
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Message 65 of 117 (705389)
08-26-2013 4:16 PM
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08-26-2013 2:41 PM


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The fuzzy definition of "happiness" is part of what I'm trying to point out. In one sense a person seeking "happiness" is a hedonist trying to maximize pleasure and enjoyment in life. In another sense "happiness" can be the contentment of having fulfilled a value, even though the process was not enjoyable.
I distinguish "happiness" from "pleasure". I see hedonism as relevant to pleasure, rather than to happiness.
When those who wrote the US Declaration of independence referred to "the pursuit of happiness", I have a hard time believing that they meant "the pursuit of pleasure."

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