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Author Topic:   The Human Eating-Speaking System - Bad Design?
Tempe 12ft Chicken
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Message 4 of 27 (706777)
09-17-2013 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nwr
09-17-2013 1:36 PM


nwr writes:
I'm not at all sure that's true. Communication does not have to use the kind of sounds that we make.
This is exactly what I would state as well. Why is the assumption that the human method of speech/communication is the best? Perhaps dolphins have a far more eloquent communication system that we have not even begun to grasp at this time, such as how we are now discovering specific whistles for individuals within the pod.
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Simply because it was the system that we were raised to recognize and use should not force us into the thought that it is the end all, be all of communication. This falls into the trap of thinking about humans as some sort of epitome of evolution, rather than simply what it is, another branch in the bush of life.
Plus, the added bonus of not sending 16 million kids to the emergency room per year for choking related causes. I will admit that the amount of US deaths by accidental choking is minimal, but this does not mean that this is the most intelligent design implemented. I think you are falling into the trap of considering human beings as something special and not as something that could have achieved similar results of propogating the species without the same communication/breathing/choking problem.
Remember, if we had our same intelligence and were raised with a different method of communication, such as was used in the past with types of clicking and gutteral noises, then this would be what we would see as the best method of communication because we would understand it. Which is an issue when dealing with animal sounds, we were not raised to understand them. People are not saying how could we add onto the existing design to make it better, but rather, how would we have designed it from the start if we were an "Intelligent" designer. This is where the system falls flat, it was poorly designed, with many other viable options visible throughout the animal kingdom that allow for all three; Breathing, communication, and eating without the danger inherent in the human design of choking.

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