In one of my threads, I brought up a good book by a dispensationalist,
CR.Stam and was promptly called out by our works required-charged to do your best protestant, jar.
jar,to Phat writes:
Have you joined yet another of the dispensationalist cults?
. jar has always had a trademark scripture that summarizes his beliefs, taught to him ages ago by his family.
jar,somewhere on EvC writes:
But of course, the Bible says that Jesus said salvation is based on your behavior, your works.As a Protestant and having been raised as a Protestant and educated in a Protestant school I can say that we were taught that
works were essential. As my old mom used to say, "It ain't what you profess to believe, it's what you
do that shows what you REALLY believe." There are some chapters of Club Christian that hold and market the old "Jesus paid for all my sins" theology. I have to admit that is an attractive product, easy to to sell, epitomized by the oft seen bumper sticker "Not perfect, just saved." It is a great con job, totally legal and with absolutely no product liability.
Of course we know that the Bible says whatever it is we quote-mine it to say, so there will always be discussion. In this topic, I want to discuss whether or not there is any merit to the teachings of CR Stam and other dispensationalists.
jar writes:
We can say for sure that Paul had no problem playing fast and loose with the truth if it helped him as a marketeer of his new creation, Christianity.
There is
no evidence that Paul was chosen to the "Apostle to the Gentiles" or that he was in fact "Apostle to the Gentiles" And yes, what Paul said is totally different than what is marketed today.
The question is whether there is a new requirement for believers(or anybody, really) that is not emphasized by Jesus and/or is a human invention rather than a Biblical Principal.
Salvation is a free gift and is never earned through works. Doing good works, however, can be evidence of a transformed mind. Critics would of course say that a believer would never skate through life without doing good works. The goats may bray otherwise.....
Dispensationalism makes sense if one believes that the Bible is more than simply human communication to other humans for a human motive.
In this topic, I want to discuss some of the arguments used by dispensationalists and will also bring up what the critics say.
Faith & Belief might be best.
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