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The new healthcare system has not hit, yet. It will take years to work through the economy.What you're feeling, CS, is the republican status quo.

Kuhner is as rabid a republican apologist as are Hannity and O'Reilly and equally as honest.Two items.First the money. Kuhner alludes to the deficit and the debt as Democrat smears while not mentioning that in the past 30 years the biggest spenders have been the Republicans.Second is race. After Kennedy/Johnson moved the party more to the center the Democrats finally threw off the old party hacks and their subtle racist tones in Chicago 1968. The war had split the party deeply but opened the way for the more progressive/liberal factions to inherit the mantel. To try to tar the Democrats with the "racist" brush when it was the Republicans that picked up the theme in the 70's is pure bullshit. The Republicans lost the black vote that Eisenhower had given them and have marched further to the right ever since.This is desperation on Kuhner's part. The sting of the Tea Party sitting on the Republican far right is splitting the party. But they are so entrenched in the party's root (evidenced by Boner ( ) having to cave in to them at every turn regardless of the party majority) the only thing left to try, besides throwing shit at the Dems, is to try and reform the Tea Party public image. Another subterfuge, a losing one at that, and one that will just exacerbate the Republican's woes.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : Wow. My syntax can really suck. Fixed.

That is true in spades.One only needs to look at my country of heritage, Greece.They now have a political party (Golden Dawn) based off of Nazi propaganda and the old rhetoric of Joseph Goebbels. And this isn't some off-shoot club of crazies living in the mountains: they have 21 seats in parliament!

McCain ran on a platform in 2008 that included federally subsidized health insurance programs and exchanges. McCain wanted to give everyone a straight up $2,000 tax credit that people could use to buy insurance, and he also wanted to set up competitive markets to drive down the cost. Sound familiar?

That is something you should talk to your employer about. The "lefties" have nothing to do with how much your employer contributes to your plan, nor which plan your employer chooses. However, the ACA does put minimum standards on what a plan must cover which may be why your plan went up.

Our's has been consistent until this year. I was told on these forums here that this new healthcare stuff would cause the cost to go down. Why not just pass a law against that then? Seems odd to fine people for not buying insurance to further that goal. What's stopping people from forming groups and bartering with the insurance companies and making plans? Why would you need the federal government involved for that? Yeah, I was smart and did the right thing in the first place... fuck me, right?

That's true.From my perspective, the Republican party of the '90s was unfit to govern. The Republican party of today seems to be calling out for euthanasia.

From what I have seen thus far, it has lowered costs for the bulk of Americans. Of course, there will always be outliers, but the averages are looking good. They did pass a law that outlawed denial of insurance based on pre-existing conditions. It's called the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare.The whole point of the mandate is to get healthy people into the risk pools so that it lowers the overall risk of the group which then leads to lower premiums. The insurance companies lose money on sick people, so they need healthy people to make up for it. If only sick people get health insurance then the cost goes up for everyone. Why not use the federal government? The federal government IS the people. The ACA is the people creating groups that can collectively bargain with insurance companies.

Cory Booker made a lot of missteps in the election.. and some of the actions I don't consider quite ethical (even though his is much better than was his opposition).He has to improve his behavior.

Alas, From my perspective, the democrats ARE the 1990 republicans. I would like to see the tea party eliminated, and the moderate Republicans be the republican party, so the democrats can act like democrats.

I don't see them as unfit to govern.The democrats are the poster child for bungling incompetence. But perhaps that has always been true. And, yes, they have moved far to the right of where they traditionally were.Yes, I too would like to see the moderate republicans become the party.

OMG, CS has actually stood up and said "The Emperor has no clothes".Be prepared to be trashed by the Authoritarian Socialist Pigs on this board.You must be a racist pig to have said such a thing. (sarcasm)Edited by petrophysics1, : No reason given.

They may be to the left of you but they're still way to the right of the civilized world.

Well, let me relay some of the things that occurred to my family , that I have personal experience with, that the ACA has done.My sister has an expensive medication. She needs to for arthritis to help her keep walking. The insurance company limited her to a 3 month supply, which would have eventually put her in a wheel chair. That medication cap became illegal, and she can get her full supply of medicaiton so she can keep on walking.My niece could stay on their insurance after she graduated college. Right after graduated, she got run over by a truck (just her leg, but mack trucks are big).
No broken bones (amazingly.. the truck started up at the crosswalk illegally).. but my niece had to be in the hospital, and to get 3 separate operations for draining, skin grafts etc etc etc. She would have been in debt for many 10's of thousands of dollars , if she wasn't covered under my sisters insurance.It might not have effected you .. yet.. but, it certainly has done my family lots and lots of good. (the insurance for my sister is cheaper this year too).

I'm sorry. I know there are protocols & rules of politeness, but
I just can't feel good about Petrophysics booing you on this story.What kind of hard ass would boo this story?Really Petro?