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Anselm's Doctrine of Substitution

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Raphael
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01-29-2014 12:55 PM

My friend Phat enjoys being the ultimate devil's advocate, or in this case the ultimate Lucifer's advocate , providing questions that stir the mind but never quite providing answers. That's something I like about him.
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1.61803 writes:
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Lucifer was a angel, a immortal being of pure intellect.
God created Lucifer, knowing he would betray him and be cast out of heaven.
Lucifer was no more responsible for his creation than us.
Where is our free will in terms of our own creation?
And as far as God not choosing Lucifer to rebel or us to kill,
Maybe....
for something to happen something must exist.
for there to be death, there must be life.
for there to be Good, ....well you know the rest.
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I agree with your words, friend, but before attributing things to God the text does not say, remember that the bible calls sin the "mystery of iniquity"(2 Thess 2). Sin does indeed exist, but it is quite a mystery.
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Regards!
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- Raph
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Raphael
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01-31-2014 2:38 AM 		Reply to: Message 30 by 1.61803
01-29-2014 3:49 PM

.61803 writes:
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Hello Raphael, another angel eh?
Sin is a necessary as the betrayal of Christ was.
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The mystery of faith, we can seek the answers in scripture but we are human and deeply flawed to perfection.
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Yessir! Well, to be honest I just liked the name.
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I totally agree with you. Very well said. I suppose I was cautioning about thinking we have all the answers. But you appear to be an individual of caution and humility, so my warnings were unrequited.
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Regards!
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