Anselm's Doctrine of Substitution

And once again Phat, where is your support for Lucifer's desire for autonomy, or that Lucifer wanted to be worshiped or that Lucifer wanted to not listen to a higher authority?

He made it up using his own human reasoning; he made it up to suit his own purposes.But notice, he also provides no support for his position.

Why? What prevents separating the message and the messenger? I the postman and the content of my mail synonymous? Would the value of the content be different if instead of snail mail it came as email?

I think it is not just relevant to modern society but among the biggest challenges we face.Just as we all face the threats posed by bad science, we all also face the threats posed by bad religion.What we need to understand and emphasize is that the issues are not science, not religion but rather the misapplication and misuse of science and religion.

We should teach our children that they will be judged based on what they do. Again, how do you do it? Where do you get the idea I have ever suggested shooting a messenger?

No, again, that is not what I said. Even though Jesus was never a Christian Jesus story is still relevant to the religion Christianity. But it is the story and beliefs that are relevant not the reality of whether or not Jesus ever existed. Again, how do you do it?What I have said is I cannot understand what "Jesus is alive today" even means and so far no one has ever been able to explain it. Sheesh.How can a message be alive? That just makes no sense whatsoever.

For some reason that argument always takes me back to the Country Club and the conversation between Sandy MacFiddish and Carl Spakler.