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Author Topic:   Why the Flood Never Happened
vimesey
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Message 417 of 1896 (714140)
12-20-2013 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 415 by Faith
12-20-2013 12:18 AM


Re: Palouse Canyon -- what extreme flood cascade flow does
God trumps it all.
As it turns out, I am quite happy with someone believing that. If someone says that they believe that the Biblical flood happened because it says so in a bible they believe is inerrant, and that the science and all the scientists must be wrong, and then leave it there, then fair enough from my perspective. I don't share your belief - I think it's self-delusion, but hey, your beliefs are yours.
As I've said before, where I get het up is where the person with that belief then tries to argue in detail to refute and (the holy grail) to disprove the evidenced science. (Or worst of all, tries to get their belief taught as "science" to children).
However, what's just occurred to me is this: why is it so important to you, Faith, to try to refute and disprove the science ? Is your faith such that you need the science to be disproved ? If you believe that God trumps it all, why the need to refute or disprove the science ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 733 of 1896 (714780)
12-27-2013 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 727 by Faith
12-27-2013 3:53 PM


Re: Reasons to believe the Flood Happened
plants in sediments are not proof of a "terrestrial" environment now memorialized in rock
What are they then please Faith ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 756 of 1896 (714806)
12-28-2013 12:22 AM
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12-27-2013 4:41 PM


Re: Reasons to believe the Flood Happened
I haven't said it often enough? Plants carried along with the sediment in the Flood waters and deposited as a layer wherever they happen to be found.
Tangle has already asked my follow-on question, and you haven't addressed it (which I can understand, because the gaping hole is obvious, even without a lot of expertise in the field), so let me ask it again:
If terrestrial plants were carried along with the sediment in the flood waters, why are there no marine fossils mixed in with the terrestrial plants ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 1876 of 1896 (718202)
02-05-2014 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1875 by herebedragons
02-05-2014 10:47 AM


Re: mountains
I wonder why the India plate hasn't rebounded off the Asian plate? The size difference is what ... 20 to 1. The India plate should have rebounded into Australia.
Kind of reminds me of that episode of Red Dwarf, where they played pool with planets. Quite an apt simile for the sort of supernatural, deus ex machina shenanigans that would be needed. :-)

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