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Author Topic:   The fossile record conclusively disproves evolution
Pressie
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Message 22 of 342 (717905)
02-02-2014 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Eliyahu
02-02-2014 6:43 AM


You missed a quote or two
You missed this quote from Gould:
quote:
Since we proposed punctuated equilibria to explain trends, it is infuriating to be quoted again and again by creationists —whether through design or stupidity, I do not know -- as admitting that the fossil record includes no transitional forms. Transitional forms are generally lacking at the species level, but they are abundant between larger groups.
My bold.
Gould, Stephen Jay 1983. "Evolution as Fact and Theory" in Hens Teeth and Horse's Toes: Further Reflections in Natural History. New York: W. W. Norton & Co., p. 258-260.

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Pressie
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Message 28 of 342 (717917)
02-03-2014 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Eliyahu
02-03-2014 12:24 AM


Re: You missed a quote or two
Now you are being dishonest about Darwin,too!
Eliyah writes:
So according to you, what those quotes really say, is that there is no stasis to be found in the fossil record, and no sudden appearance of new species, only fine gradual development of new species, all according to Darwin.
While, in reality, Darwin wrote:
and lastly, although each species must have passed through numerous transitional stages,. it is probable that the periods, during which each underwent modification, though many and long as measured by years, have been short in comparison with the periods during which each remained in an unchanged condition.
p 410f
http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?viewtype=tex...
Please stop being dishonest. You’re doing your religion a disservice by your dishonesty.

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Pressie
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Message 316 of 342 (720078)
02-20-2014 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Eliyahu
02-20-2014 6:40 AM


Fossils support the theory of evolution
quote:
The point however, remains, that the fossil record is in agreement with creation, and rebuffs evolution.
  —Eliyahuh
Au contraire.
What's the creationist explanation for the biological assemblage zones in the Beaufort Group of the Karoo Sequence?
You can find out more about them starting at Karoo Supergroup - Wikipedia
It goes like this from bottom (1) to top (7):
1. Dinocephalian.
2. Pristerognathus-Diictodon
3. Tropidostoma-Endothiodon
4. Aulacephalodon-Cistecepthalus
5. Dicynodon Lacerticeps- Whaitsia
6. Lystrosaurus-Thrinaxodon
7. Kannemeyeria-Diademodon
It goes from the Permian Adelaide subgroup (bottom) to the Triassic Tarkastad subgroup (top).
Oh, and don't even try to find a creationist 'explanation' for them. They haven't even tried yet, apart from claiming some vague references to a magical Fluddy.
And also be very careful in explaining those jaw bones, from a creationist 'worldview'. Jaw bones don't get 'hydrologically sorted' not even without the rest of the fossils...
Oh, and if you want it, I can privately send you copies (if the mods allow it) of the pages of where I got my information from . Pages 535 to 548 of
South African Committee for Stratigraphy (SACS), 1980. Stratigraphy of South Africa. Part 1 (Comp. L.E. Kent). Lithostratigraphy of the Republics of South Africa, South West Africa (Namibia), and the Republics of Bophutatswana, Transkei and Venda: Handb. geol. Surv. S. Afr., 8
In it there's also a whole list of peer-reviewd geological and palaeontoloical articles on the subject (at least 78 direct references). I can also send you more than 30 more recent references on the subject. Your pick.
Edited by Pressie, : Changed the references.

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