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Author Topic:   The fossile record conclusively disproves evolution
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Message 145 of 342 (718168)
02-05-2014 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by shalamabobbi
02-04-2014 9:39 PM


Re: Out of ammo.
Sorry, Moose, that was an excellent and well deserved snark.

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Message 311 of 342 (719366)
02-13-2014 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by mike the wiz
02-12-2014 8:01 AM


Quiesce The Screams
Mike, you and Eliyahu can scream as loud, large and ugly as you want but that will not change the fact that you are wrong.
There is no direct logically sound argument that shows this, they can only claim that this type of, "evolution" leads to macro-evolution, by pointing to tenuous inductions of fragmentary historical evidence. As you say, mutations are not largely favourable and the accumulation of them leads to error catastrophe.
Given a population of, say, a million individuals each having 10+- mutations different than their parents (not allele differences but actual genetic sequence mutations) adding 10,000,000 mutations to the population-wide genome each generation, you really are going to sit here and tell us that after 100,000 generations you have determined there cannot be any major changes?
You are the one defying sound logic, Mike.
From your source:
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On the contrary, biology has catalogued many traits produced by point mutations (changes at precise positions in an organism’s DNA)bacterial resistance to antibiotics, for example.
This is a serious misstatement of the creationist argument. The issue is not new traits, but new genetic information.
Riiight. And arranging all the notes in a different way may make different sounds but will not produce any new music.
Bullshit!
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These abnormal limbs are not functional, but their existence demonstrates that genetic mistakes can produce complex structures, which natural selection can then test for possible uses.
Amazingnatural selection can ‘test for possible uses’ of ‘non-functional’ (i.e., useless!) limbs in the wrong place. Such deformities would be active hindrances to survival.
Yeah, like having grown some pseudo-legs where the fins were supposed to be. Obviously useless ... unless ...
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Message 320 of 342 (720346)
02-21-2014 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Eliyahu
02-20-2014 6:40 AM


Re: Fossils disprove evolution
I can come up with MANY questions that evo's cannot answer.
And I can come up with MANY questions that you, your creos, your torah and your gods cannot answer.
And the undeniable fact still remains that the fossil record, is not just in agreement with, but is the very proof of evolution and not just rebuffs but totally shreds your genesis myth.

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Message 331 of 342 (720547)
02-25-2014 6:49 AM
Reply to: Message 322 by Eliyahu
02-23-2014 2:05 AM


Re: Fossils prove evolution
The fossil record shows only STASIS, non-change, and sudden appearance of new species, without a link to supposed predecessors.
The fossil record shows both long stasis and gradual change neither of which is any problem for the modern theory of evolution.
Stasis is not forever and all populations change. That is what is shown in the fossil record. If you had bothered to read Gould and Eldredge instead of just parroting some anti-science religious websites and cherry picking quotes and misrepresenting them you would also know that what they said is that the "Punctuated" part of Punctuated Equilibrium took place over thousands of generations. There are thousands of identified predecessors and this "sudden appearance" is only sudden in geologic terms spanning many millennia.
I have been watching you in the more religiously oriented threads. My not knowing all that much about the details of the subjects I though you were making some good points and taking persuasive positions. After reading your stuff here and your displays of the most piss poor reading comprehension and your lack of research ethics and logic, I have to revise these views.
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