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dronestar
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Message 286 of 397 (721347)
03-06-2014 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Faith? writes:
Or criminality, which is how it used to be classed.
Oh, don't get me started. How I miss the days we could hang a darkie on just the mere accusation of him wearing a wool-blend sweater.
Yep, good ol' ol' time religion. [wiping a sad and nostalgic tear from my eye]

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Message 287 of 397 (721348)
03-06-2014 4:45 PM
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03-06-2014 4:41 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
You need your mouth washed out with soap.

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dronestar
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Message 288 of 397 (721349)
03-06-2014 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:45 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Faith writes:
You need your mouth washed out with soap.
Hmm, seems like you are trying to prevent me from acting on my conscience.
Well, . . . that ain't right.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 289 of 397 (721350)
03-06-2014 4:48 PM
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03-06-2014 4:45 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Your mind could use a good washing. I don't think soap would cut it, though.

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Message 290 of 397 (721351)
03-06-2014 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Faith, you are in your very own category of abnormal, but if you want a cake, just drop me a PM. I know a couple of gay guys in my town that will serve even Christian bigots.
They do draw the line at lesbians though - they've got real principles.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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AZPaul3
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Message 291 of 397 (721352)
03-06-2014 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Faith
03-06-2014 3:08 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Far as I know all I'm condoning is the right to conscientiously refuse to do anything that is felt to support gay marriage.
You condone the excuse, you condone the result.
You are condoning hatred and bigotry.
You are making the baby Jesus cry.

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dronestar
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Message 292 of 397 (721353)
03-06-2014 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
Faith writes:
and the only thing it can be classed with is another unnatural sexual inclination.
Sometimes I'll get naked and rub against my wool blanket. If I time it right I'll get an orgasm and a HUGE electric shock at the same time.
Now I know where the term lighting rod came from.

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Message 293 of 397 (721355)
03-06-2014 5:16 PM
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03-06-2014 3:58 PM


Re: Most Christians disagree with Faith
I hope some from the apostate churches will be saved, including you, but that doesn't make the churches less apostate.
A major clue to their apostasy, by the way, is your idea of what constitutes Christian love.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 294 of 397 (721356)
03-06-2014 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
unnatural sexual inclination.
Um how can it be unnatural if 10% of all mammal species are homosexual.
Technically the only unnatural relationship is a monogamous relationship without cheating.
Note the difference social monogamy and sexual monogamy.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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Coragyps
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Message 295 of 397 (721359)
03-06-2014 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by Faith
03-06-2014 3:44 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
There is no way you are going to get me to treat homosexuality as the equivalent of race.
You didn't address me specifically, but I am not concerned about Faith's particular treatment of either. I'm more concerned with treating all people, regardless of race, gender, national origin,....or sexual orientation, equally under the law. Like decent citizens, and even Christians, should do anyway.
Mammy Yokum said it well: "good is better'n evil because it's nicer!
Edited by Coragyps, : fix tag

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Message 296 of 397 (721360)
03-06-2014 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by Coragyps
03-06-2014 6:49 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
I have no problem whatever with treating people as decent citizens, including gays. They can buy all the cake and eclairs they want from my bakery. I'll serve them freshly roasted coffee with their eclairs if they like. And they can hire me to do portrait photography as well. I'll even sit down and chat with them if they like. Many gays are very knowledgeable about art and politics and other interesting subjects. I've known some strongly conservative gays. We get along great in all those areas.
I have a very specific problem with being asked to do anything that suggests support for gay marriage, the overthrow of thousands of years of the meaning of marriage in all cultures, and the ratification of a sexual aberration as the same as heterosexual union. I know at least one gay man who agrees with me about this.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 297 of 397 (721361)
03-06-2014 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2014 4:32 PM


Re: There are Christians who disagree with Faith
I'm sorry, there is no middle category. Homosexuality is not to be classed with race or sex, and the only thing it can be classed with is another unnatural sexual inclination.
How unnatural is unnatural? Should we stop straight couples from marrying if they're into spanking? Or should we let them get married but not give them any cake?

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Message 298 of 397 (721362)
03-06-2014 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by Faith
03-06-2014 5:16 PM


Re: Most Christians disagree with Faith
hope some from the apostate churches will be saved, including you, but that doesn't make the churches less apostate.
A major clue to their apostasy, by the way, is your idea of what constitutes Christian love
Faith. Your very behavior on these boards and what you espouse go against what Jesus teaches. Your message of hypocrisy and bigotry speak volumes. Even non-believers have called you on this.
Who is the apostate here? Show me where I speak a message separate from what the Gospel speaks of love.
Faith, what do you constitute as my idea of Christian love being different than the gospel? Since I directly quoted the Bible's own definition of love in I Corinthians 13
I Corinthians 13:4-8 writes:
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

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"In coming to understand anything we are rejecting the facts as they are for us in favour of the facts as they are. - C.S. Lewis, An Experiment in Criticism

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 299 of 397 (721364)
03-06-2014 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by Faith
03-06-2014 5:16 PM


Re: Most Christians disagree with Faith
I hope some from the apostate churches will be saved, including you, but that doesn't make the churches less apostate.
I am curious of what churches you think are not apostate. Where do you fit in the Christian denomination mix.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
"In coming to understand anything we are rejecting the facts as they are for us in favour of the facts as they are. - C.S. Lewis, An Experiment in Criticism

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Dr Adequate
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Message 300 of 397 (721366)
03-06-2014 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by DevilsAdvocate
03-06-2014 9:01 PM


Re: Most Christians disagree with Faith
I made this ... look, I was bored, OK? I made this. It might help. Of course, it only represents families of religion when you really need to get down to the species level. And where are the Adventists? The JWs? Should the Mormons go in there anywhere?
(Note that species can't evolve like this, because unlike the Church they were Intelligently Designed. Or so I'm told.)

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