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Author Topic:   Possibility Order of Magnetude Metric (POMM)
RAZD
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Message 1 of 5 (722198)
03-18-2014 7:10 AM


We see any number of arguments that "X" is possible when dealing with YEC arguments.
Example: speed of movement of tectonic plates -- to get from one continent just after the flood (so the animals can disperse to their current locations) the blocks must move at a pretty fantastic clip ... is it possible?
Technically anything is "possible" but a critical analysis says that it is not very possible ...
To get a handle on this I propose a metric to deal with this issue: The POMM, the "Possibility Order of Magnitude Metric."
Take the current known maximum rate (CKMR)-- any proposal that uses this rate is assigned a POMM value of 1 (highly possible)
Double that rate is assigned a POMM of 0.5 (fairly possible)
The rest is an exponential curve:
POMM = (1/2)r
where r = proposed rate / CKMR
So if one proposes that continents move at 1 foot per day when the CKMR is 1 inch per year the POMM would be (1/2)(12x365) = 3.08048424410⁻⁹
Edited by Admin, : Remove unnecessary and possibly confusing "^" characters.

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RAZD
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Message 5 of 5 (722231)
03-18-2014 10:46 PM
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03-18-2014 9:24 AM


My first question was "why an exponential curve?" ...
Well, I saw it as including scientific tentativity, that the possibility could not be absolutely ruled out, never reach zero ... just get very close to zero fairly rapidly the more outrageous the claims.
Taking that sort of position into account... I don't see this "additional rational exercise" being helpful in trying to show a creationist the error of their ways. It seems like the rebuttal would just be another "tree rings worked differently then!!!" kind of denial...
YEC 6,000 year old earth vs current known maximum age 4.55 billion years ... meaning an average apparent aging rate of
4.55x10^9/6x10^3 = 7.58x^5 years per year
so POMM = (1/2)^7.58x^5 = 1.810^-228181
Near zero yes?

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