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Author Topic:   If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
Coragyps
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Message 226 of 231 (726159)
05-06-2014 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Blue
05-06-2014 5:48 PM


Re: Creation of light
Try that tonight.

And go look this afternoon if it's still daylight where you live.


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Percy
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Message 227 of 231 (726163)
05-06-2014 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Blue
05-06-2014 5:48 PM


Re: Creation of light
On average the moon is in the daytime sky half the time. The main factor governing whether it is visible to the naked eye is its proximity to the sun in the sky. The further apart they are the more full the moon, the less the glare from the sun, and the easier the moon is to see. The closer they are the less full the moon, the more the glare from the sun, and the harder the moon is to see.

AbE: It's worth mentioning that when the separation between the moon and sun in the daytime sky is zero, that's a solar eclipse.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : AbE.


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NoNukes
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Message 228 of 231 (726166)
05-06-2014 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by Blue
05-06-2014 5:44 PM


Re: Creation of light
I don't think the story flows well if we interpret it that light was created, then life, then the sun. Where did the light come from if not the sun?

That much is true. The question is whether the story is just inaccurate.

There is simply no way to parse verse 14 to create the seasons but not the sun and at least the stars. And verse 15 is similar in grammatical construction to verse 14. You are grasping at straws.

Again you have to be able to presume God does exist for you to understand where I am coming from.

You also have to believe that the Bible is astronomically accurate. In fact that is the only requirement. I believe in God, but I don't believe that the Bible is a physics textbook.

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I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

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NoNukes
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Message 229 of 231 (726167)
05-06-2014 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Blue
05-06-2014 5:23 PM


Re: Creation of light
In order for you to see something it has to have light on it. Do you know anything about how the eyes work? You have to remember this is supposed to be from the vantage of a human being.

Carbon dioxide is invisible to humans day or night because it is transparent to light (and does not refract it). There is plenty of it in the room you are in. Do you see any of it?

Darkness in space does not need an explanation.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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AZPaul3
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Message 230 of 231 (726184)
05-06-2014 10:48 PM


Hmmm. Blue went Inactive. I guess that's one way to get out of a discussion. You folks had a good thing going here. Our loss.
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NoNukes
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Message 231 of 231 (726229)
05-07-2014 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by AZPaul3
05-06-2014 10:48 PM


Maybe he went outside early yesterday afternoon and saw the moon. Here in central North Carolina moon rise was around 12:30 pm yesterday.

There is still 'Non sequitur' boy to play with if you just want to be right about something.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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