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Author Topic:   Why Only Creationism So Politicized?
NosyNed
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Message 76 of 155 (70962)
12-04-2003 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Syamsu
12-04-2003 8:26 AM


Keeping up
I'm not a practising scientiest and I've heard of them! From all sorts of sources including newspapers.
Since you clearly don't read, you opinion on what is influential and not isn't all that interesting.

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Message 79 of 155 (71053)
12-04-2003 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Syamsu
12-04-2003 7:12 PM


Re: Engineering special: take whatever it has at that point.
"I guess"
You guess do you? And what are the chances of your guess being right?

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NosyNed
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Message 108 of 155 (72562)
12-12-2003 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by PE's been savaged
12-12-2003 3:11 PM


Misplaced Persistance
I'm incredibly impressed with Mark and Mammuthus's persistence to be honest.
Myself, I'm not impressed. It is misplaced persistance. Syamsu is on my ignore list as he is a complete waste of time. He runs if you try to get a clear answer to a question (as has been noted by others). Why bother?

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NosyNed
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Message 118 of 155 (72841)
12-14-2003 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Syamsu
12-14-2003 11:54 AM


Racism and Darwin
So what? Is there a religion that hasn't been used to defend racism. Is there anything that hasn't been misused in this way?

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NosyNed
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Message 122 of 155 (72892)
12-14-2003 10:41 PM
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12-14-2003 10:16 PM


Racism and Darwin Misused
I think you saying "so what" means that you don't care that the main works in evolutionary biology are heavily politicized, you apparently only care for whether or not evolution is scientifically valid or not.
No! That is not what it means. I care if some idiot misuses anything. For example, the use of religious ideas that were supposed to say something about loving your fellow man to justify killing is something I care about too.
However, the misuse of an idea does not make the idea wrong. You seem to think that it does in some way. That is what the so what is about. So an idea is misused what does that tell you about the idea itself?
It's bizarre that you implicitly equate evolutionary biology to religion, by asking if there is a religion that hasn't been used to defend racism, in stead of asking if there is a science that hasn't been used to defend racism.
I suppose there has been someone, somewhere who has managed to misuse any of the sciences. I do not equate biology to a religion. You'd have to be a bit thick to get that out of what I posted. The point is that anything can be misused.
I don't accept that something over 20 years old can't be brought in as evidence of evolutionary biology being politicized now. That is a completely ridiculous standard of evidence that noone who has even the slightest amount of honest intellectual curiosity about the subject would ever propose
It was your conjecture that it was "becoming politizied". You have to do better than show that it had been in the past.
In addition, you seem to think that it has some affect on the science itself. For that to be shown you'd have to have the scientists in the field doing the politicizing.
You then make a statement:
"It just so happens that the most influential scientists in the discipline are "guilty" of politicizing much in their work,"
but have yet to offer an example. In fact, you've never backed a thing up.
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NosyNed
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Message 124 of 155 (72907)
12-15-2003 2:05 AM
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12-15-2003 1:38 AM


Back Up
Back it all up with something concrete besides your rambling or give it up. I'm bored with the continual assertions and nothing but.

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