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Faith 
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Message 76 of 603 (728573)
05-30-2014 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by New Cat's Eye
05-30-2014 2:38 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
The message you responded to, Message 55, contains no quotes. It had a link to the site.
It had the following statement:
As far as being "Faith's new favorite source" it has a lot of the same ideas that she espouses: the Pope is the Anti-Christ, hatred for the Jesuits, the unreliability of any translations besides AKJV, veneration of King James IV, the lie of evolution, the Pope's support of Hitler... you name it.
Except for some tendentious wording (hatred for...veneration of...) this is what I was agreeing with, and I was reacting against HBD's rejection of these ideas by affirming the nose for truth of the site owner -- concerning these topics and these only. This is polemic or at least banter, so the following insinuations that I affirm anything else at her site is sleazy tactics.
ABE: Yes it would be nice if I anticipated all the ways what I say can be used against me but that would mean I'd never write anything here because you'll all invent something if you can't find something to turn against me..
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Percy
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Message 77 of 603 (728577)
05-30-2014 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Faith
05-30-2014 2:13 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Faith writes:
It is obvious to anyone who knows how to read that I was responding only to what was quoted to me.
It is obvious to anyone who knows how to read that you considered her someone reliable and well worth listening to:
Faith in Message 57 writes:
I'll have to spend more time at her site, she obviously has a strong grasp of truth.
Perhaps you should have spent more time at her site before endorsing it instead of after.
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 78 of 603 (728578)
05-30-2014 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Percy
05-30-2014 3:59 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]

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Percy
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Message 79 of 603 (728579)
05-30-2014 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Faith
05-30-2014 4:03 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Faith writes:
ABE: Yes it would be nice if I anticipated all the ways what I say can be used against me but that would mean I'd never write anything here because you'll all invent something if you can't find something to turn against me.
Nothing has to be invented because your words speak for themselves. If you didn't so often say ill-considered things you wouldn't so often have to invent spurious reinterpretations.
Can it be agreed now that the Jesus is Lord website is, to say the least, a bit batty?
--Percy

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 80 of 603 (728583)
05-30-2014 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Faith
05-30-2014 3:10 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
The message you responded to, Message 55, contains no quotes. It had a link to the site.
It had the following statement:
As far as being "Faith's new favorite source" it has a lot of the same ideas that she espouses: the Pope is the Anti-Christ, hatred for the Jesuits, the unreliability of any translations besides AKJV, veneration of King James IV, the lie of evolution, the Pope's support of Hitler... you name it.
Which was a response to Theo; so how you can consider the above as being "quoted to you" is unimaginable.
Except for some tendentious wording (hatred for...veneration of...) this is what I was agreeing with,
So you weren't even really agreeing with what was actually said. Yet you refer to the paraphrased author as having a "strong grasp of truth". You really don't make any sense at all.
and I was reacting against HBD's rejection of these ideas by affirming the nose for truth of the site owner -- concerning these topics and these only
But you gave us no hint that this was the case.
This is polemic or at least banter, so the following insinuations that I affirm anything else at her site is sleazy tactics.
You reap what you sow.
ABE: Yes it would be nice if I anticipated all the ways what I say can be used against me but that would mean I'd never write anything here because you'll all invent something if you can't find something to turn against me..
If you were more careful about what you submitted, our responses to you would be different. Read, think, re-read, then submit. Your approach of getting all pissed off and then firing off the cuff with whatever immediately pops into your head, only later to go back and edit your messages to make them more like you wanted them to be, is a big reason why you're getting responses that you see as being used/turned against you.
You really do say a lot of idiotic stuff. When we respond you act surprised that we think you're such an idiot. Well, say what you mean and mean what you say. Make sure your posts aren't idiotic before you submit them and you won't get treated like such an idiot.

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Faith 
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Message 81 of 603 (728587)
05-30-2014 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by New Cat's Eye
05-30-2014 5:14 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Look at the title of this series of posts. It started with this lie and you're all just continuing the lie. I am not backing down on this. What I said was said perfectly innocently within a specific context and this is just typical of EvC to invent an excuse to ridicule a creationist rather than EVER give the benefit of the doubt. What a pack of....

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Modulous
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Message 82 of 603 (728590)
05-30-2014 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Faith
05-27-2014 1:09 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
Oh, good for Tracy whoever she is, it's such an honor to be named Loony of the Week at EvC. I'll have to spend more time at her site, she obviously has a strong grasp of truth.
Personally, it seems to me, the meaning of this quote can be summarized with this logic
P1: Creationists are often called Loony at EvC
P2: Creationists have a strong grasp of truth
P3: 'Tracy' is called a Loony at EvC
C: Tracy has a strong grasp of truth.
You were clearly not speaking formally of course, it was more of a method of criticising EvC member's propensity for calling people Loonies when they actually have a firm grasp of the truth (in your view, obviously), thus adopting the position that being called a Loony in these parts is a tremendous complement.
How did I do? Better than you?

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Faith 
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Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 83 of 603 (728591)
05-30-2014 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Modulous
05-30-2014 6:36 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
You left out the most important part, which is that I was responding to a very specific description by HBD of what is at the site when I said she had a strong grasp of truth, because it was a characterization of my own beliefs (minus, as I said a few posts back, some tendentious wording that made it a matter of emotion rather than truth). Beyond that, I would never say that just because EvC calls creationists loonies that therefore they have a strong grasp of truth, but just as a matter of fact when EvC says that it usually means I think they do, and that's why it's an honor to be called a Loony at EvC.
But thanks for the effort.
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Percy
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Message 84 of 603 (728592)
05-30-2014 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
05-30-2014 6:10 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Faith writes:
What I said was said perfectly innocently within a specific context and this is just typical of EvC to invent an excuse to ridicule a creationist rather than EVER give the benefit of the doubt.
As Modulous notes, you were attempting to cast an insult by implying that to be called a loon by EvC is a badge of honor indicative of great perspicacity. The only problem is that the person you chose as your example really is a bit of a loon, to put it mildly.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 85 of 603 (728593)
05-30-2014 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Faith
05-30-2014 6:42 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source
The self-serving ex post facto rationalizations that you have to constantly engage in always ring false. Why not put your effort into keeping your foot out of your mouth in the first place?
--Percy

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herebedragons
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From: Michigan
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Message 86 of 603 (728597)
05-30-2014 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Faith
05-30-2014 3:10 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
Except for some tendentious wording (hatred for...veneration of...)
You don't hate the Jesuits? You don't think King James lived a blameless life despite all the accusations against him?
and I was reacting against HBD's rejection of these ideas by affirming the nose for truth of the site owner -- concerning these topics and these only.
Except I was wasn't agreeing or disagreeing just commenting on Theodoric's comment that "Jesus-is-Lord" was your new favorite source. Was he justified in saying that? I don't know, but you do have a lot of views in common with the author of that site.
This is polemic or at least banter, so the following insinuations that I affirm anything else at her site is sleazy tactics.
My assessment that Sister Tracy is a loony was based on my review of the website not on any agreement you may have with it. But your reaction confirmed what we complain about continually with you. If a source agrees with you, then it must be reliable. Did you even look at the website before crediting her with "a strong grasp of truth?" Doubt it.
Yea, as Mod said, you were trying to insult me by suggesting that being called a loon at EvC is a badge of honor and only those with a strong grasp of truth are called loons.
So ... benefit of the doubt here Faith ... Is "Jesus-is-Lord" a reliable source or is the author a loon?
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 87 of 603 (728674)
06-01-2014 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Faith
05-30-2014 6:10 PM


Re: Faith's new favorite source [this is a lie]
What I said was said perfectly innocently within a specific context..
Only you know exactly what you mean. The rest of us have to rely on the text you submit.
The text you submitted didn't relay exactly what you meant.

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ramoss
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Message 88 of 603 (729348)
06-09-2014 9:33 PM


Dennis Markuze (aka David Mabus) pleads guilty for the second time
Dennis Markuze (aka “David Mabus”) pleads guilty for the second time | Skeptical Software Tools
And the original story.
Home | Montreal Gazette | Montreal Gazette
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Dr Adequate
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Message 89 of 603 (729352)
06-09-2014 10:11 PM


Slightly crazier than the average creationist.
Independently from other sources, i started to think about dinosaurs, and this cause the increasing morbous cult of such beings, which inspire only demoniac landscapes. Were dinosaurs Satan's beings? I found not few other sources in the web which links dinosaurs with Satan. I believe it could be. They disappeared and this is a clear God's will.
Also, they look scary. That settles it.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 90 of 603 (729358)
06-10-2014 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by ramoss
06-09-2014 9:33 PM


Re: Dennis Markuze (aka David Mabus) pleads guilty for the second time
Holy shit, he was all coked up and drunk. That explains a lot.
Turns out he is just an immature dick who likes to get fucked up and bitch.
His posts here made me think he was crazy, but he was just really high

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