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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
According to some papers, it seemed, Calcium-40 and I would add a neutron.
I misred the paper. I would have said potassium-41. No, I really don't know. You have to have the physical environment perfect and sometimes there are by-products. Your answer is probably more in depth. Edit: I found a few article which support 41K for sure, and some seem to say 41Ar is possible. I would have to look at it closely though. Edit: nope 41K is the isotope alone. Edited by OS, : No reason given. Edited by OS, : No reason given. Edited by OS, : No reason given. Edited by OS, : No reason given.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
I wanted to prove Ar40 is difficult to produce or happens easily sometimes, and thus unlikely to be indicate ages. I went to far by wondering if the reverse direction was easier.
There is a way to reverse it, but it is strange and seems to take more effort. So the only thing I can say, and it goes against conventional understanding, is that 40K/40Ar decay requires a neutron and the expulsion of a proton. Is there such a decay or is it 39K/40Ar? Yet my skepticism probably sounds silly. Edited by OS, : No reason given.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
No, I wanted more in depth knowledge as to how the general K-Ar-Ca mix works. It has spurred me to read more.
On the magma level, it does look like 40K is being forced to turn into 40Ar and 40Ca by neutrons and protons.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
I think I should conclude here too.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
"For a collision between argon 40 and a proton, the result would be emission of either two protons to get Cl-39 or an alpha particle to get Cl-38."
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
Luckily for humanity, both the K/Ar and Ar/Ar methods only start working after the magmatic phases. What's your proof?
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
No, I believe he said with that statement, Argon formation in magma doesn't happen. I believe the statement such, is totally false.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
What if the argon is being made in the molten state?
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
So, it doesn't really matter when the argon is generated, or where. While I don't agree, I understand your point.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
Yet it is produced in the magma state. And looking at Zircon crystals, it looks as though the noble gases are formed very fast. I just wonder if the noble gas is in there bouncing, and not wanting to react to crystal rock.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
"not wanting to react"? I wasn't clear. Is it unstable in its containment? Does it bounce around in the rock?
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
How do the noble gases get trapped in radioactive rock. Have you thought this out?
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
Clear as mud. But the Geiger counter seems to rule tree ring dating. How C14 is in the atmosphere and where it is seems to be deciding factors. Most trees don't grow new rings. They have them at once and they become distinct and spread with age.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
They cause the formation of the crystals. The crystal are formed slowly. Nice dodge.
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OS Member (Idle past 3297 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
ThinAirDesigns writes: You always keep track of the date when you pull something from a tree. The results don't always represent tree ring growth. Then let's make sure and use the ones that do for dating calibration. Let me guess, you measure every ring as it expands too. It is interesting to me how paper seems to date better than corpses.
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