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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Which is only true if you start by unquestionably assuming a Young Earth. The Flood isn't a good or even plausible explanation for either - that's why you have to suppress so much of the evidence. It's just the least bad explanation given your dogma.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Oh, you don't have to do any violence to the Bible at all, just understand it differently. Your unBiblical assumptions about the Bible have far more to do with your attitude than the a Bible itself.
quote: Mainstream explanations are far less ridiculous than the Flood, that's why they are mainstream - and the Flood isn't.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Oh we do see that what you are saying is often obviously distorted, exaggerated, untrue or even dishonest. We just don't see that those as reasons to believe you.
quote: Yes, I know that you have to try to pretend that everyone is at the same level. But the fact is that the science of geology has a good deal more evidence than you do, and a lot more understanding.
quote: Sure, the laws of physics might have indetectably changed so that the Flood just happens to produce results that look like hundreds of millions of years of geological processes. But if you have to appeal to that sort of thinking you have left rationality a long way behind you.
quote: And in order to make that objection you have to ignore the fact that you believe that lithification happens even more readily than Percy does.
quote: Too often it seems that isn't true.
quote: You mean that you try to deny that your argument starts with dogmatic religious belief, even though it is the truth.
quote: In other words you are reduced to desperately pretending to have evidence.
quote: If you really think that it's weird to believe sensible ideas instead of crazy nonsense that explains a lot. Simple accumulation over time explains a lot. And given the time - which we really do have very good evidence for - it's pretty much inevitable. New thread coming for the fossil record, since it is off topic here.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: So what you are saying is that for you, your religious beliefs trump science. Well that's fine for you, but it is hardly an argument that your beliefs are true. Indeed, the fact that you have to appeal to it is pretty good evidence that your beliefs aren't true. Why not consider the possibility that your view of the Bible might be wrong ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I don't believe that your theology is on topic here. Although it's very sad that you don't realise how much of your theology is not Biblical at all.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Your theology is not on topic in this thread. I'm not gunning for another suspension. Start a new thread if you want to discuss it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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The theology is, of course, off topic.
quote: And you make a lot of claims without diagrams. Nor do you respect the limits of the diagrams you do produce. But even worse here you are complaining that people actually look at parts of the diagrams you don't want them to look at and see evidence you don't want them to see. Look, expecting people who disagree with you to be biased in favour of your beliefs is ridiculous. But here you are complaining because that expectation isn't met.
quote: Given the confused and vague nature of many of your arguments, it's hard to believe that you want anyone to "get it".
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Your hate for honesty and truth are noted.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Faith, following an argument - at least by the usual definition - does not preclude looking at other features of the evidence you provide. If you don't want people to look at things you need to provide a good reason. Which would generally include an explanation.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: It's obvious that YEC has no viable explanation for the geological and fossil records. That's why you need to insist that the Flood did it, against all reason.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
If we look at this diagram:
It is absolutely obvious that on the left of the diagram the Base Tertiary layer does NOT follow the contours of the underlying strata.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No, it definitely doesn't in the leftmost quarter or so of the diagram. And there's quite a big step up from a fault in that portion. So that fault definitely predates the deposition of the Base Tertiary stratum.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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All of which is irrelevant to my point, that the Base Tertiary was not there - certainly not as rock - when that fault occurred. That really is obvious because if it were we'd see the same step up there - and we don't. Indeed I'd say that the rising salt is the major contributor to the surface contours of the Base Tertiary, more so than any of the faults - it's obviously responsible for the "bump" in the middle.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: So you're essentially claiming that you're right and if th evidence shows that you are wrong, "big deal". You do realise that that attitude - and the way it affects your behaviour - is one of the biggest problems you have here?
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