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A 9-year-old girl accidentally killed an Arizona shooting instructor as he was showing her how to use an automatic Uzi, authorities said.

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I know I'm a terrible person but it's hard to drum up much sympathy for that "instructor".

This one happened a couple weeks ago. I would have posted but I was on vacation: Sleeping with her twin grandsons, she was awoken by a scraping sound, grabbed her gun, and fired into the dark.It was apparently a close couple days, but fortunately he survived.--Percy

From Pew Research Center survey finds more support for gun rights than gun control: Dangerous convicts staged a successful prison break not too far from here a couple months ago, and it caused me to think what I would do if they tried to break into our house. I would of course call 911, but I assume they could break down the front door and then the bedroom door in a minute or less. Now what? With murderous convicts bursting into the bedroom would I reconsider my earlier conclusions that a gun in the house is a danger always?I doubt it. The mathematics is undeniable, and the impact on a family's entire life of adding a gun to a household both usefully and safely is just too overwhelming to contemplate. There's training and practice, and then where do you put the gun? If you put it in the nightstand, what if you're in the family room when the convicts burst in? What if a child finds it in the nightstand? If you lock it up, will you have time to free the gun when you need it? If you unlock the gun and put it in the nightstand at bedtime every night, will you remember to lock it up again *every* morning without fail?There's just no safe way to have a gun in the house if the purpose is for protection.-Percy

Hi Percy,They have gun safes with bio sensors.You just put you hand on the safe and it unlocks to your finger print.However you make a good point, having a loaded gun in the houses is dangerous. If you forget to lock the safe just once you could have a tragedy. The level of gun safety vigilance required is above the risk of a break in when compared to a bad outcome due to negligence.That being said I'd rather have a loaded pistol in such a instance than just my pecker in my hand.

Really?These brutes are seconds away from beating you to death and doing God-knows-what to your wife and kids, and you'd be reassuring yourself with math?I find that impossible to believe.

Jon asks: The odds on this horrible scenario ever eventuating are so small.Maybe I should build a meteorite-proof roof on my house as well.

These brutish meteorites are seconds from smashing you and all you love into xongpaste.

Asgara reminds me: I feel so blue.... Edited by xongsmith, : creebled web pointer

You missed the point.I was calling Percy out on his silliness.I don't own any guns and have no desire to. But I will admit that, if I were ever in a situation like the hypothetical one Percy described, I'd be real desperate to get my hands on one. All the reasons I decided against getting a gun in the first place wouldn't matter and would be of no comfort while intruders beat me to death in my own bed.

I think you missed Percy's point.
It might be suddenly very, very desirable to have a gun next to you on the nightstand (and the ability to use it and think clearly when woken up at 2 am). That is true and I think Percy meant to suggest that he agrees.However, he says and I think any semi sane person would agree that most of the time having a loaded gun around is a very stupid and dangerous thing.So what are the odds of you waking up in the middle of the night and needing the gun so you aren't beaten to death in your own bed as compared to the odds of finding yourself with a dead family member laying on the floor when you turn on the light?He says that all the information we have tells us that the odds are you will end up with your grandson dead on the floor more often than a psycho killer.

I finally had a use for a gun though i don't have any so i had to call my neighbor.A truck hit my dog at 4 in the morning, a cop woke me up to tell me then left when i got to him he was bent 180 degrees but still alive one pair of legs one way the other the other way, i had to call my neighbor to shoot him so he wouldn't suffer anymore.

You have it backwards. In a desperate situation we think of all kinds of silly solutions. It's only when we're calm and rational that we are likely to come up with sensible policies.

Six people have been shot dead and at least one other wounded in three locations near Philadelphia, officials in the US state of Pennsylvania say.
Pennsylvania shootings: Six dead, gunman on the run - BBC News

But why blame the gun in such a case? This is a garden-variety revenge murder from what I've read. "She done him wrong" so he killed her and others associated with her. If guns weren't available he would have found some other way.

We do occasionally see mass stabbings but they're comparatively rare because people tend to try to get away. It's easier to shoot somebody running away than to stab him.