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faitheist Junior Member (Idle past 3494 days) Posts: 28 From: Australia Joined:
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Not sure if this has been discussed before, but here's a question for the creationists:
If god made Adam, why did he give him nipples? Simple enough question; I'm sure you have complicated answer.
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Admin Director Posts: 13038 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Thread copied here from the Nipples thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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Well, obviously Adam had nipples because he was created in the Image of God. And God had nipples because.....
......I'll get back to you on the rest of this. "The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1311 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
My Moobs would look really silly without them, and my collection of clamps would be redundant.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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Everyone knows the nipples where the first human graphic thermometers.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
faitheist writes:
The creationist counter-question would be, "What's the evolutionary advantage of male nipples?" If god made Adam, why did he give him nipples? Clearly, God was planning ahead; He knew that Adam and Eve would sin and thus invent death; they would have to be able to procreate and Eve would need nipples; since Eve was made out of Adam, he needed nipple genes.
faitheist writes:
Well, I used semi-colons instead of periods to make it look more complicated (also to even the wear on my keyboard and to make Bible-lovers more comfortable).
I'm sure you have complicated answer.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Not sure if this has been discussed before, but here's a question for the creationists: If god made Adam, why did he give him nipples? Have you heard of the Omphalos hypothesis?
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3990 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: That explains why even male nipples are errogenous."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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Jon Inactive Member |
Clearly, God was planning ahead; He knew that Adam and Eve would sin and thus invent death; they would have to be able to procreate and Eve would need nipples; since Eve was made out of Adam, he needed nipple genes. But the "planning ahead" theory doesn't account for why God had to try Adam with every other creature of his creation before figuring out that Adam preferred humans. God isn't portrayed as a very good planner in that story. It would also seem odd that God would have to give Adam characteristics he planned to copy into Eve since he was pretty much starting over when he made her and did a perfectly fine job endowing her with traits not found in Adam. In the other creation account God makes them both at the same time and could have just done it proper from the get-go. I don't think we can trace nipples back to Adam as preperation for Eve. On the other hand, there is the good hand-waved answer: Adam did not have nipples himself but both sexes acquired them after they were added to Eve, for whom they had good use. This doesn't explain why God did not make only women have nipples as he could easily have done, but perhaps leaving out that perameter was just an oversight (more hand-waving). JonLove your enemies!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If god made Adam, why did he give him nipples? Because God used a chimp predecessor template as man's starting point and apes all had nipples. I'm guessing that this question is inspired by the expression "useless as teats on a bull". Well, I have learned something that my wife and I regularly exploit; tits on a man and tits on a woman who is not lactating, are not at all useless. Far from it. Besides all that, the question of whether Adam had tits, a navel, or was circumcised are unanswered, and anyone who tells you he knows the answer isn't using the KJV of the Bible anyway, so you should ignore him.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jon writes:
God, in His omniscience, knew that the relationships with the other animals wouldn't work out. Adam had to figure it out the hard way.
But the "planning ahead" theory doesn't account for why God had to try Adam with every other creature of his creation before figuring out that Adam preferred humans. God isn't portrayed as a very good planner in that story.
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faitheist Junior Member (Idle past 3494 days) Posts: 28 From: Australia Joined: |
Thank you. That was most entertaining.
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