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Dr Adequate
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Message 486 of 638 (737009)
09-15-2014 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 482 by taiji2
09-15-2014 3:03 PM


Re: The Tao
I will look back over my posts to find a reference I made claiming the Tao being like the creator-god of the Christians. Since you found it already, could you point me there to save time?
Sure.
in the beginning, there was only the Tao and the Tao was an "awareness"
This awareness was alone in Wu Chi, nothingness
The Tao created from the Wu Chi (nothingness)
The Christians call it God instead of the Tao and don't call the nothingness "Wu Chi", otherwise there is a marked similarity. All we need now is for the Tao to have strong views on gay marriage ...

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Message 555 of 638 (737149)
09-17-2014 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 552 by taiji2
09-17-2014 5:12 PM


Re: The Tao
No lack of seriousness intended, truly. The word evidence has special meaning for science, correct? ringo made a flat statement that any idea that is not supported by evidence is fanciful by definition, The word she referenced for definition was fanciful. I looked fanciful up in Merriam-Webster and found no reference to evidence in any of the accepted definitions. My suggestion is perhaps she should find a better word.
Well, after a few minutes with a thesaurus, how about baseless, conjectural, groundless, hypothetical, imaginary, notional, speculative, suppositional, unconfirmed, uncorroborated, unestablished, unevidenced, unfounded, unjustifiable, unproven, unsubstantiated, unsupported, unverified, or up in the air?

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Message 563 of 638 (737172)
09-18-2014 5:22 PM
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09-18-2014 4:46 PM


Re: The Tao
In my opinion, diferent terminology is not allowed when someone claims anything "by definition". In my opinion, the definition should include what is claimed.
Now you're just being picky. Suppose I said "By definition, a vegetarian does not eat the flesh of animals". This is true; and the fact that you can't find a dictionary which specifically uses the phrase "the flesh of animals" rather than "meat" in its definition is irrelevant. And if you think it is relevant, then you should not forget that there are no rules restricting who can write a dictionary, I could turn out a very short one myself. A lot of words would be missing, but you'd find at least one entry under V.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 568 of 638 (737179)
09-18-2014 7:51 PM
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09-18-2014 6:43 PM


Re: The Tao
Please stop throwing me straw men that I must respond to.
I wonder what you mean by that?
I cited Merrian-Webster because of the assumption that Merriam-Webster would be viewed as an authoritative source without challenge. I do contend that in the general population Merrian-Webster as an authoritative source is accepted, seldom with challenge.
That is because its authority is not usually leant on by people saying "Such-and-such a thing cannot be definitionally true of x because when I look in the Merriam-Webster dictionary under x I don't see the exact phrase you used." However authoritative it is, it doesn't have enough authority to let you do that.

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