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I have no idea what you find to be "tortured rationales" since the whole thing rests on actual descriptions from scripture. The concept itself IS difficult to grasp, don't know why you insist it isn't, especially since you've already made two of the most common mistakes with it that people make. It's hard to wrap one's mind around One God in Three Persons and that's why everybody has so much trouble with it. It takes a while to get it. Of course there's nothing I can say to someone who calls it all a book of myths when I know it's not. Some things can't be proved. Way it goes.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

err, Quoioioioioioioioioii! ( the most ugly "Quoi?" I had ever heard in the French Language -- a personal reaction against francophophile/germanophobe tendencies, a line from the the original, Le Grand Blond avec une chaussure noire ).

errr, quoi?What would make you believe that they weren't looking for it. If that was what they had wanted, tben that is what they would have said. Duh?

OK, trinitarianism or not? if you are coming from a trinitarian perspective, you would want to present that. If you are not, then you wouldn't even be thinking of it.

The verses are THERE, they hold together, here's no way any of that could have been made up. I read quite a bit of the apologetics of the early Church Fathers at one point, they're honest intelligent believers. But there's no point trying to persuade you, is there?

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The verses are there but they are not together; they are each taken out of context to support an extra biblical bit or dogma.

Duh!!!We are operating with an infinitely diffenent iterative factor. In the old days, you could wait for the ink to dry off of your missive. Nowadays your missive could be sent off before you even realize it.'

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot-Over? Nu?

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Post something at least vaguely containing significant information, or don't post.Adminnemooseus

Oh, yes, they would find exactly that, because that is what they were looking for!

There's no reason they would be looking for it. Even if they were looking for it, it would have to be there in order to find it, and it most definitely is there, but it's too ridiculous to think they were looking for it. They could just as easily all have become Arians if it wasn't in scripture.It is something they discovered from reading the scriptures deeply.Once they discovered it of course they wanted to teach it to others, it's a very important doctrine, and when a heresy arose that denied it, particularly denying the Deity of Christ, that made it all the more necessary to teach it to the Church.You are getting the order of things backwards.

If they had to do so much inordinate implying from such disparate verses, they had to have been looking for it!And you imagine that it just fell into their laps? Really? What a joke!