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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: I expected a prediction like this was coming from quantum physics. Quantum mechanics never got over the fact that it could not explain a black hole, so now it must destroy the concept. Next comes claims that quantum gravity is fact. Well I guess QM pulled off the deception of the Higgs Boson, what can stop it now? The darkest days of science are yet to come. Is science chasing truth from reality or is science trying to remake reality?
quote: This Physicist Says She Has Proof Black Holes Simply Don't Exist | HuffPost Impact Say that again Prof so everyone can hear it
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: This is the fruit of pure materialistic science It is no longer what we observe, it is only what we think we observe. This is why Einstein disliked quantum physics, it is a mathematical construct without any realistic modeling. The math can lead you to the truth only when viewed from reality.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: In the case of dark matter, the interaction is dark, at least in understanding. (the WIMP)
quote: Or active imagination
quote: Similar to aether wasn’t that a scaler field?
According to ancient and medieval science, aether (Greek: αἰθήρ aithēr[1]), also spelled ther or ether, also called quintessence, is the material that fills the region of the universe above the terrestrial sphere. wiki
quote: Aristotle, the most famous of the early Greek philosophers, didn't agree with the idea of atoms. In the fourth century BC he taught that all matter is composed of different combinations of four elements earth, air, fire, and water. http://coe.kean.edu/phys1000/powerpoint/cpch11-14.pdf Edited by zaius137, : No reason given.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: Aristotle...
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: But the Higgs field is scaler and just as arbitrary as far as aethers go. Greeks did not know about electric and magnetic fields.
quote: My apology, participants never use vague language in this forum. This is particularly true of your language. i do not wish to shock anyone.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: In regards to the question of mass, how many more mechanisms are there besides the Higgs mechanism (those for gaguge bosons)? [Given that particular limitation of the Higgs description of mass and the arbitrary nature of the descriptive power it has.] My objections remain the same regarding all pervasive fields (fields that take on a constant value everywhere). Nothing new under the sun, the original concept coming from the ancients
Archimedes' says give me a leaver long enough and a place to put it and I will move the world. QF says give us enough free parameters and arbitrary fields to put them in and we will describe the universe. quote: I hope you are not implying anything other than a local influence of field theory. Scaling the field theory is fraught with unsolvable problems.
quote: Only certain categories of matter. I would assume you do not refer to most normal matter. And do those field states include vacuum energy? In my opinion QFT has no inroads into matter. We could cover these one at a time, but I am sure you are familiar with them in detail (things like anti-matter). Forces like gravity You know all the big stuff.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: (a) The Higgs Mechanism is pure speculation subject to bad assumptions.(b) Strong force interactions are as of yet not fully described. quote: About a constant value:
The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is an elementary particle in the Standard Model of Particle physics. Its main relevance is that it is the smallest possible excitation of the Higgs field[6][7] — a field that unlike the more familiar electromagnetic field cannot be "turned off", but instead takes a constant value almost everywhere. (wiki) Sorry, almost everywhere.
quote: With exception of the ultimate comparison. Both are products of a active imagination. My opinion. I see your opinion.
quote: What about normal matter that has fallen into a black hole?
quote: Great, but now describe gravity in terms of quantum field.
quote: Yes and too much of it, that is one proof that it is a bad apprehension of reality. One of many failures of QFT. One of those big things I mention.
quote: Theories are only disproved in science. It is not that QFT has not tried and failed to be a universal theory of mass, gravity and their interactions. This thread is a perfect example of the inconsistency of QM in general. Black holes are present in our universe, stars are the only real explainable source of black holes and their numbers. Yet the counter-diction of observed reality comes from calculations of QM.
A man may imagine things that are false, but he can only understand things that are true, for if the things be false, the apprehension of them is not understanding. Isaac Newton Photosynthesis is not a failed theory because it is observable, parts require very little speculation , the particle field concept is hypothetical and total speculation. Edited by zaius137, : No reason given.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: When I proclaimed atheism, in my ignorance, the interpretation of Romans 1 escaped me also. God gave you observable evidence of Himself in his creation. There is no scientific theory that applies to the description of the universe that is either comprehensive or complete. QFT or Relativity are incomplete descriptions of reality and restricted to either the micro or the macro. God has hidden from us, a underlying reality,that we may not peak in (event horizons prevent that). You see speculation is just that, speculation. Ancient concoctions like the aether and the Higgs boson are artifacts of ignorance. Colbard is correct.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: You are conflating description with a demonstration of underlying axioms. Errors are prevalent in many of its calculations requiring normalization to the particular scale it is being used.
quote: QFT is a speculation that a particle is associated with a field. QFT is not false when applied to its particular scale.
quote: Very good, now describe the gravitational field particle relationship.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: No it hasn’t look here. Speculation Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: I know there is no solution to the quantum gravity problem. If particle field theory were consummate as stated, there would be a definable direction to a solution of quantum gravity. QFT theory must yield to Relativity in the macro universe, that being the better way to understanding.
quote: I never claimed QFT is ignorant speculation. For the small scale, it has had great success. Although QFT will never provide a explanation for unpredicted nuances, like the production of mesons when probing the strong force (determined from observations). I am sorry for your discomfort when someone portrays a demurral of skepticism, QFT being a life’s profession. Discomfort is a normal reaction to such. But particle field is speculation none the less. You have already admitted that particle field paradigm has it’s limitations. My perspective is an underlying symmetry to the universe, a simple extrapolation from the existence of calculable entities, demonstrates to me the existence of a universal mind. I hope there is an agreement about the preceding statement at some level, either symmetry or God. If one could exist without the other.
quote: It is that underlying symmetry and the implication thereof.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: Do the facts demonstrate a zero spin boson exhibiting a scalar pervasive field?
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: You may be describing the magic kingdom here perfectly. Exactly where are the fourteen fields of quantum field theory incorporated in a field equation? You might show how the Higgs field fits into a stress-energy tensor. Or are you saying if you step back far enough and just assume all matter fits into a particle/field, by reason of tautology, the classical universe is the quantum universe.
quote: Only at the very small scales. Quantum fields are local (if the particle field hypothesis is even correct). I know what Quantum gravity refers to, a failed paradigm.
quote: Frankly, quantum mechanical nuances are just a curiosity to me, some of the particulars are obscure to individuals like me who are not wrapped in its mathematics.Here is a particular you might expose here please do not bore us with in depth opacity. Misbehaving Particles Poke Holes in Reigning Physics Theory | Live Science now show us your stuff.
quote: I love quantum double talk, the answer is usually right and wrong at the same time. First there is a underlying symmetry then that symmetry does not apply. This is more like a religion than a religion. And no I would not even attempt a direct proof of a mass of 957.67 MeV although given time I would find it in the research. The same as you would, only you could understand the contradictions.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: Maybe you can teach me something?
quote: Today, Ian Low at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois and a couple of buddies comb through the data in an attempt to throw some light on this question. Their conclusion is that the data is consistent with at least two other particles that are not the standard Higgs boson. http://www.technologyreview.com/...r-say-particle-physicists I am not the only one who doubts the Higgs is real. Not only the particle but the action of the Higgs mechanism. It could be the Higgs is a artifact of statistical error.
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zaius137 Member (Idle past 3437 days) Posts: 407 Joined: |
quote: Thanks for the tensor. The problem I have with you simply adding it as a stress-energy tensor to the relativity field equations is not correct. Here is some speculation on the matter:
quote: Also Assumptions about the Higgs contribution to stress-energy hinges on if that particle is real at all. Trying to get any real contribution from an arbitrary field with a particle of suspicious existence is impossible. It is not provable, thus not science, at best a speculation. Like all speculation (especially about the Higgs which is a chain of many speculations) you can get it to work one way or the other mathematically but the proof is impossible. One bad assumption can lead to another bad assumption, black holes don’t exist right? So says the QM.
quote: What does that mean? is this another case of it is right and wrong?
quote: I know you could find an objection Clear as a bell. This is a objection to the earlier finding, maybe it is accurate, maybe it is not. Maybe the entire Standard model is ready for a revamping.
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